February 2011 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

interest in a local ISOC chapter

by steve ulrich

i won't bother to plumb the depths of the linkedin discussion system. mailing lists seem like a much better way to poke at this topic ... by way of testing the waters here. there are active ISOC chapters in a few cities around the country and we seem to be lacking in this regard. is there reasonable interest within this group (and i'll poll the other usual internet curious haunts as well, tclug, etc.) for the creation of a local ISOC chapter? this was on the 2010 todo list and it got pushed into 2011. NANOG last week a recent chat w/some folks from the COISOC group kind of punted it back onto my priority list. if there's interest i'd be happy to get the ball rolling and present something. -- steve ulrich (sulrich(a)botwerks.*) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/7/11 1:13 PM, "Ryan Goldberg" <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: >As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG > >http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html I already use it for our bytes-transferrred billing. Good stuff, we're doing almost 10K points in ~12 seconds. >Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. I'd say it is twice as complex as Cacti because getting graphs back out is all custom work (the example PHP code doesn't work, and as of 0.9, even the parameters for rtgplot are competely wrong). I am a big fan of RTG, but it isn't Cacti in terms of ease of getting things back out. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Ryan Goldberg

As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. Ryan On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>>> Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>>> create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>>> fabric. >>> >>> Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. > > I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > >> http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate >> >> Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) > > We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all > it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than > you could do by hand. > > Richard > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Richard Laager

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to > >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching > >>fabric. > > > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate > > Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than you could do by hand. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>fabric. > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 3:51 PM, "Anthony Anderberg" <anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET> wrote: >> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >> tools and simple interface stats. >> >> Check out network-weathermap: >> http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take >this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate >view as mentioned earlier. Super, let's chat sometime. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 2:26 PM, "Andrew Hoyos" <hoyosa(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: >On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >> On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ >> >> Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) >> >>>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? > >The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >tools and simple interface stats. > >Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use >in the weathermap. Awesome, I'll put on the list. >Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >fabric. Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Anthony Anderberg

> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available > tools and simple interface stats. > > Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate view as mentioned earlier. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) > >>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available tools and simple interface stats. Check out network-weathermap: http://www.network-weathermap.com/ There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use in the weathermap. Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching fabric. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Jay Hanke

>> >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) <hint>I'd be excited to have an EDU connect to MICE.</hint> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011