Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig
We were pulling close to 600 mbps when it was fully uncapped which I think was yielding close to 3x in output rates from the cluster. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Sent: Oct 30, 2011 11:00 AM On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:
How much is required?
How much is wanted?
We've been at (or over?) 500 Mb/s of cache fill. We've got a commit for 250 Mb/s from USI + the U peering. Depending on how much offload the U provides we're either full or just about full. I think we need to get to about 1 Gb/s total split between 2-4 carriers. That would give us some breathing room up to about 4 Gb/s of Akamai traffic. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
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You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:
Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here...
So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I?
Assume I'm an idiot.
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Do I remember correctly that in the early days, Akamai did not want to be fed across the exchange? Am I mistaken, or has something changed? I assumed this was the reason for the direct fiber cross connect to USI. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:32 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote: Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
So if that is the case, a carrier can"t commit to just 100Mbps because they'd have to expect traffic levels to increase somewhat equally accross all contributing carriers and the only way it would stay lower would be if more carriers started contributing, correct? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker@jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net>wrote:
You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams.
I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:
Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here...
So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I?
Assume I'm an idiot.
-- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ########################################################################
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More or less, yes depending on how much bandwidth demand actually increases. That said I think we should just wait for a bit and see what the demand looks like over the next week. I've been upgrading all of USI's transit links to 10 gig links (almost done) and so we will have some excess capacity for a while, that coupled with the UMN contributing to bandwidth should be enough to keep things going for now without further issue for a while. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Wilker <mwilker@JAGCOM.NET> Sender: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:48:54 To: <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig So if that is the case, a carrier can"t commit to just 100Mbps because they'd have to expect traffic levels to increase somewhat equally accross all contributing carriers and the only way it would stay lower would be if more carriers started contributing, correct? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker@jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net>wrote:
You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams.
I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:
Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here...
So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I?
Assume I'm an idiot.
-- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ########################################################################
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Justin Krejci <jkrejci@usinternet.com> wrote:
More or less, yes depending on how much bandwidth demand actually increases. That said I think we should just wait for a bit and see what the demand looks like over the next week. I've been upgrading all of USI's transit links to 10 gig links (almost done) and so we will have some excess capacity for a while, that coupled with the UMN contributing to bandwidth should be enough to keep things going for now without further issue for a while.
I think we should line up 2 or maybe 3 carriers to open up the Akamai route and that we should do it right away. -U of M isn't offering full transit, just access over their peering network -I think sharing the load is a good idea i.e. it's very cooperative, also providing bandwidth makes a carrier "invested" in the exchange -The connections are relatively easy to add and we're in a building where bandwidth is close infinite and everyone buys a gig when they really only need 250 Mb/s -It is a LOT of work to beg for bandwidth from carriers. Also, striking when there is an issue to resolve yields much better results than saying it is for growth. I'd rather spend my time recruiting new carriers. -From a TE standpoint, if i was picking up hundreds of mb/s from an Akamai cluster, I would want to contribute my bandwidth to make sure it stays operational -Getting management buy in doesn't mean that we are required to use the BW, we can have carriers ready with their upstream filters updated and advertise the route when the time comes. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
On Oct 30, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau@IPHOUSE.NET> wrote:
Assume I'm an idiot.
Not hard to do. ;-p ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
I'm with mike and no need to assume anything. How do we help Sent from a wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Mike Horwath <drechsau@IPHOUSE.NET> Sender: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:26:21 To: <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
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