We (HCMC/HHS) support this as well with one suggestion/comment: Can we maintain a higher quorum requirement for specific actions that pertain to changing the makeup of the actual board or how it votes outside of an election if that isn't already in place? I'd hate to see the low member quorum be used against the MICE by a handful of orgs for the purposes of changing the nature of MICE. I don't have any concerns about that right now, but I've seen it happen in other non-profit orgs where a handful of members essentially took over the non-profit for their own commercial/personal benefit. ---- Brady Kittel Systems Architect - Server Team Hennepin County Medical Center 612-873-2150 Brady.Kittel@hcmed.org On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:00 AM Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote: I support as well, for all the reasons others have mentioned. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Quorum I support this proposal as well. If we get to the point where we are in another lockdown, or where people don't want to travel, we will need this in force as well. All meetings will continue to be announced, but the board should not have to try to call people as the meeting starts to try to make sure the meeting will count (this has happened before). Reid On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:48 AM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan@les.net<mailto:jonathan@les.net>> wrote: On Mon., 2021-09-20 12:13 a.m., Richard Laager wrote: I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less, are a quorum for the transaction of business. I support Richard's proposal. Not having quorum is a real governance problem, and if faced, it's a problem that the board and assembled members at the AGM would not be able to resolve. The only option would be to call a new meeting and hope for more attendees. 10 members seems sufficient to ensure there's reasonable oversight of business. And as Dean Bahls pointed out, nothing about this change would limit the ability of any member to participate. Thanks to Richard for the proposal. Jonathan Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET<http://les.net/> - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
I would like to see something like if only 10 members are present and not the quorum that is now set, that no action can take place until the next meeting or the next full quorum. This way we all have time to look at what changes or actions want to be taken. Thank you, Daniel Petsinger Owner, Radio Link Internet 8162 SW 81st ST Ellendale, MN 56026 507-417-4176 daniel.petsinger@radiolinkinternet.com _____ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Kittel, Brady Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Quorum We (HCMC/HHS) support this as well with one suggestion/comment: Can we maintain a higher quorum requirement for specific actions that pertain to changing the makeup of the actual board or how it votes outside of an election if that isn't already in place? I'd hate to see the low member quorum be used against the MICE by a handful of orgs for the purposes of changing the nature of MICE. I don't have any concerns about that right now, but I've seen it happen in other non-profit orgs where a handful of members essentially took over the non-profit for their own commercial/personal benefit. ---- Brady Kittel Systems Architect - Server Team Hennepin County Medical Center 612-873-2150 Brady.Kittel@hcmed.org On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:00 AM Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote: I support as well, for all the reasons others have mentioned. Frank From: MICE Discuss < <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:55 AM To: <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Quorum I support this proposal as well. If we get to the point where we are in another lockdown, or where people don't want to travel, we will need this in force as well. All meetings will continue to be announced, but the board should not have to try to call people as the meeting starts to try to make sure the meeting will count (this has happened before). Reid On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:48 AM Jonathan Stewart < <mailto:jonathan@les.net> jonathan@les.net> wrote: On Mon., 2021-09-20 12:13 a.m., Richard Laager wrote: I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less, are a quorum for the transaction of business. I support Richard's proposal. Not having quorum is a real governance problem, and if faced, it's a problem that the board and assembled members at the AGM would not be able to resolve. The only option would be to call a new meeting and hope for more attendees. 10 members seems sufficient to ensure there's reasonable oversight of business. And as Dean Bahls pointed out, nothing about this change would limit the ability of any member to participate. Thanks to Richard for the proposal. 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