FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1
I talked to the company deploying the solution a couple of days ago. This would be a good time to get any transport upgrades going. Some of the traffic numbers are large and 100g transport gear is running 6 months lead time. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:28 AM Dean Bahls < dean.bahls@cooperative-networks.com> wrote:
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
*Nataliya Coll* Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066
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Agree with Jay. We received the notice as well. It appeared to be legitimate, so we responded. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:58 AM Jay Hanke <jayhanke@southfront.io> wrote:
I talked to the company deploying the solution a couple of days ago.
This would be a good time to get any transport upgrades going. Some of the traffic numbers are large and 100g transport gear is running 6 months lead time.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:28 AM Dean Bahls < dean.bahls@cooperative-networks.com> wrote:
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
*Nataliya Coll* Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066
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I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so... This is a snippet of the information. CDN Partners 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their performance and available capacity. [image: image.png] Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@wctatel.com> wrote:
I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.
Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉
Steve
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Dean Bahls *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
*Nataliya Coll* Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066
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Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row. -Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so...
This is a snippet of the information.
CDN Partners 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their performance and available capacity.
Ben Wiechman
Director of IP Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <http://arvig.com>
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@wctatel.com <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> > wrote:
I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.
Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉
Steve
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066
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I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare < 000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net> wrote:
Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row.
-Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so...
This is a snippet of the information.
CDN Partners 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their performance and available capacity.
Ben Wiechman
Director of IP Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <http://arvig.com>
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@wctatel.com <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> > wrote:
I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.
Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉
Steve
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066
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Sorry Ben, I had read the msg as text not HTML. I see the table now, thanks. -Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:26 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well.
Ben Wiechman
Director of IP Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <http://arvig.com>
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net <mailto:000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net> > wrote:
Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row.
-Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so...
This is a snippet of the information.
CDN Partners 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their performance and available capacity.
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@wctatel.com <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> > > wrote:
I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.
Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉
Steve
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance,
Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > > wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066
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FWIW, I reached out to a contact with Amazon Prime about the TeleGeography survey and got the following response: ===== Thanks for letting me know about the MICE-DISCUSS discussion of Thursday Night Football. Yes, Prime Video has contracted TeleGeography to survey a group of ISPs including some MICE participants. Prime Video is working with AWS and a number of CDN partners to acquire edge capacity for Thursday Night Football. We are trying to understand from the ISP perspective how those CDNs deliver traffic to ISP customers in an effort to serve traffic as efficiently as possible and ensure a quality customer experience. Any ISP that want to validate a contact from TeleGeograpy or any other contact related to Prime Video can reach us via the alias primevideo-isp-us@amazon.com. This survey only covers a subset of US ASNs, so networks that were not surveyed should feel free to reach out to us and we can provide additional information regarding our plans for Thursday Night Football. ==== I don't have any visibility into who reads the primevideo-isp-us@amazon.com alias so no idea whether it is a useful path for following up on peering or not. My guess is that the regional alias listed in peeringDB, peering-amer@amazon.com is the best route. I have been told by a couple folks reasonably close to the peering team at Amazon that they realize that they have sucked at communication and hope to suck less based on comments from 3 individuals over the last 9 months or so. HTH Miles McCredie Network Engineer - Architect Office: 6052755192 Miles.McCredie@midco.com Midco.com -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 9:31 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire CAUTION: This email originated from outside of MIDCO. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Sorry Ben, I had read the msg as text not HTML. I see the table now, thanks. -Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:26 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well.
Ben Wiechman
Director of IP Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net <mailto:000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net> > wrote:
Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row.
-Michael
> -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Ben > Wiechman > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so... > > This is a snippet of the information. > > CDN Partners > 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We > deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to > 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live > streams delivery is determined by performance. We work > 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not > create undue stress on the ISP network during peak > 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the > ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance > 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. > 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to > adjustment), and the function and protocol supported > 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their > performance and available capacity. > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > Director of IP Strategy and Engineering > > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> > <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
wrote: > > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > > > Steve > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> > DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from > Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten > several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light > Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted > by multiple companies. > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be > prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > Dean > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of > AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> > DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anthony > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll > <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > > wrote: > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in > Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to > survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive > presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL > season. > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video > provides more detail about their network planning initiative. > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during > upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better > understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN > provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your > network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you > please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via > email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > Nataliya Coll > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegeo... <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegeo...> > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegeo...> > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following
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It is always good to have the goal to "suck less". lol Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:15 PM Miles McCredie <Miles.McCredie@midco.com> wrote:
FWIW, I reached out to a contact with Amazon Prime about the TeleGeography survey and got the following response:
===== Thanks for letting me know about the MICE-DISCUSS discussion of Thursday Night Football. Yes, Prime Video has contracted TeleGeography to survey a group of ISPs including some MICE participants. Prime Video is working with AWS and a number of CDN partners to acquire edge capacity for Thursday Night Football. We are trying to understand from the ISP perspective how those CDNs deliver traffic to ISP customers in an effort to serve traffic as efficiently as possible and ensure a quality customer experience. Any ISP that want to validate a contact from TeleGeograpy or any other contact related to Prime Video can reach us via the alias primevideo-isp-us@amazon.com. This survey only covers a subset of US ASNs, so networks that were not surveyed should feel free to reach out to us and we can provide additional information regarding our plans for Thursday Night Football. ====
I don't have any visibility into who reads the primevideo-isp-us@amazon.com alias so no idea whether it is a useful path for following up on peering or not. My guess is that the regional alias listed in peeringDB, peering-amer@amazon.com is the best route. I have been told by a couple folks reasonably close to the peering team at Amazon that they realize that they have sucked at communication and hope to suck less based on comments from 3 individuals over the last 9 months or so.
HTH
Miles McCredie Network Engineer - Architect Office: 6052755192 Miles.McCredie@midco.com Midco.com -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 9:31 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
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Sorry Ben, I had read the msg as text not HTML. I see the table now, thanks.
-Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:26 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well.
Ben Wiechman
Director of IP Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Farvi g.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7CMiles.McCredie%40MIDCO.COM%7C279a3332ccc84 1571e7808d9da977f97%7Cf70525877c584eacaec96b5a66be0433%7C1%7C1%7C63778 1166503630905%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2lu MzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=64d7RIbI4vG%2FjCKS E6YCIEDT2lrfV4HMDTwV%2BBORNL0%3D&reserved=0>
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net <mailto:000000097dab80c5-dmarc- request@lists.iphouse.net> > wrote:
Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row.
-Michael
> -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Ben > Wiechman > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so... > > This is a snippet of the information. > > CDN Partners > 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We > deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to > 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live > streams delivery is determined by performance. We work > 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not > create undue stress on the ISP network during peak > 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the > ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance > 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. > 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to > adjustment), and the function and protocol supported > 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their > performance and available capacity. > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > Director of IP Strategy and Engineering > > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> > <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com>
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wrote: > > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > > > Steve > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> > DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from > Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten > several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light > Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted > by multiple companies. > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be > prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > Dean > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > On Behalf Of > AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <mailto:MICE- <mailto:MICE-> > DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anthony > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll > <ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > > wrote: > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in > Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to > survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive > presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL > season. > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video > provides more detail about their network planning initiative. > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during > upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better > understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN > provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your > network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you > please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via > email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > Nataliya Coll > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegeo... < https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegeo...
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Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc... There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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I echo what Frank said. We are going with Qwilt as well. Justin Long Lines Broadband From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:09 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc... There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc...
There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time).
Frank
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Justin Krejci *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content.
We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon.
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*From:*MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Thanks Jeremy!
I'll give it another try.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Steve,
Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com if you have not already.
Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com
From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.
Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉
Steve
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.
The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.
Dean
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
Has anyone else gotten an email like this?
On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...
Thanks in advance, Anthony
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony,
I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.
To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.
Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066
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I don’t know if it’s exclusive to the NCTC or not – you could reach out to Qwilt and just ask them what options they have for you. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ryan Malek Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) ________________________________ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc... There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET><mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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Steve Savoy