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On 05/22/2013 10:04 AM, Eric Crist wrote:
Does anyone here know why Level 3 doesn't currently peer with MICE? Just curious at this point.
I asked them about this a year or two ago. They had no interest in peering with MICE at that time. I would expect peering to be helpful to their CDN business, but I bet keeping the traffic on their transit business by not peering is more lucrative. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Level3 generally doesn't peer at public exchanges, and especially in North America. Furthermore, most of us are not realistically peers if Level3. Most important as Steve alludes to they don't think it is in there business interest to peer with most of us. They think we should be their customers, and many of us are. If we can keep growing the exchange there may eventually be enough other big guys here that Level3 might start private peering here in Minneapolis but, I wouldn't realistically expect them to participate in MICE. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== On May 22, 2013, at 10:14, Steve Howard <showard@PAULBUNYAN.NET> wrote:
On 05/22/2013 10:04 AM, Eric Crist wrote:
Does anyone here know why Level 3 doesn't currently peer with MICE? Just curious at this point.
I asked them about this a year or two ago. They had no interest in peering with MICE at that time.
I would expect peering to be helpful to their CDN business, but I bet keeping the traffic on their transit business by not peering is more lucrative.
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http://www.level3.com/en/legal/ip-traffic-exchange-policy/ On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:48:50AM -0500, David Farmer wrote:
Level3 generally doesn't peer at public exchanges, and especially in North America. Furthermore, most of us are not realistically peers if Level3. Most important as Steve alludes to they don't think it is in there business interest to peer with most of us. They think we should be their customers, and many of us are.
If we can keep growing the exchange there may eventually be enough other big guys here that Level3 might start private peering here in Minneapolis but, I wouldn't realistically expect them to participate in MICE.
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On May 22, 2013, at 10:14, Steve Howard <showard@PAULBUNYAN.NET> wrote:
On 05/22/2013 10:04 AM, Eric Crist wrote:
Does anyone here know why Level 3 doesn't currently peer with MICE? Just curious at this point.
I asked them about this a year or two ago. They had no interest in peering with MICE at that time.
I would expect peering to be helpful to their CDN business, but I bet keeping the traffic on their transit business by not peering is more lucrative.
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Yep… This is not an uncommon attitude among some larger providers. It's actually rather interesting. So far, it has never worked out particularly well for any of the providers that have pursued this strategy. Consider, for example, SPRINT, or the financials of what is left of PSI. If it wasn't so detrimental to the internet as a whole, I'd channel Randy Bush and say "I encourage my competitors to continue to do this." Owen On May 22, 2013, at 11:48 AM, David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote:
Level3 generally doesn't peer at public exchanges, and especially in North America. Furthermore, most of us are not realistically peers if Level3. Most important as Steve alludes to they don't think it is in there business interest to peer with most of us. They think we should be their customers, and many of us are.
If we can keep growing the exchange there may eventually be enough other big guys here that Level3 might start private peering here in Minneapolis but, I wouldn't realistically expect them to participate in MICE.
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On May 22, 2013, at 10:14, Steve Howard <showard@PAULBUNYAN.NET> wrote:
On 05/22/2013 10:04 AM, Eric Crist wrote:
Does anyone here know why Level 3 doesn't currently peer with MICE? Just curious at this point.
I asked them about this a year or two ago. They had no interest in peering with MICE at that time.
I would expect peering to be helpful to their CDN business, but I bet keeping the traffic on their transit business by not peering is more lucrative.
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