Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc. Frank
On 10/26/2016 11:07 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc.
AFAIK, no policy. Somewhat related: I peer with BGPmon.net, which is not on your list. Apparently they have been acquired by OpenDNS since I last looked at their website. I'm not aware of Cymru having a data gathering thing. Do you have a link? I peer with their bogons, UTRS, and IXP services. The IXP one was just added today actually: https://www.team-cymru.org/IXP/ When I turned it up, I saw they were missing the IP ranges used by MICE and several others, so I let them know. -- Richard
Just keep in mind we don't want to give away data that people are going to sell...unless we get something from it. Reid On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager@wiktel.com> wrote:
On 10/26/2016 11:07 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc.
AFAIK, no policy.
Somewhat related:
I peer with BGPmon.net, which is not on your list. Apparently they have been acquired by OpenDNS since I last looked at their website.
I'm not aware of Cymru having a data gathering thing. Do you have a link? I peer with their bogons, UTRS, and IXP services.
The IXP one was just added today actually: https://www.team-cymru.org/IXP/
When I turned it up, I saw they were missing the IP ranges used by MICE and several others, so I let them know.
-- Richard
-- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178
I’m not entirely sure this is true in all cases. Owen On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler@he.net<mailto:rfishler@he.net>> wrote: Just keep in mind we don't want to give away data that people are going to sell...unless we get something from it. Reid On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager@wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: On 10/26/2016 11:07 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc.
AFAIK, no policy. Somewhat related: I peer with BGPmon.net<http://bgpmon.net>, which is not on your list. Apparently they have been acquired by OpenDNS since I last looked at their website. I'm not aware of Cymru having a data gathering thing. Do you have a link? I peer with their bogons, UTRS, and IXP services. The IXP one was just added today actually: https://www.team-cymru.org/IXP/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.team-2Dcymru.org_IXP_&d=DQMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=Q_d8tNiSzoBecM8os8iGQA&m=B6A5mDX5P9jkqNy4-Y3mSM3C9qMaSQKXKTVQOGqWyh8&s=8Cnp-cmn2PQYxtdaBJRMLx6o8mDk-PouW-3Ppr7tSNk&e=> When I turned it up, I saw they were missing the IP ranges used by MICE and several others, so I let them know. -- Richard -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FSUBED1-3DMICE-2DDISCUSS-26A-3D1&d=DQMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=Q_d8tNiSzoBecM8os8iGQA&m=B6A5mDX5P9jkqNy4-Y3mSM3C9qMaSQKXKTVQOGqWyh8&s=yUUg6mrJ1dsYxMJ4CzuS5Q7c9dEkKevUv-oeCO3x_jQ&e=>
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager@wiktel.com> wrote:
On 10/26/2016 11:07 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc.
AFAIK, no policy.
Somewhat related:
I peer with BGPmon.net, which is not on your list. Apparently they have been acquired by OpenDNS since I last looked at their website.
I'm not aware of Cymru having a data gathering thing. Do you have a link? I peer with their bogons, UTRS, and IXP services.
The IXP one was just added today actually: https://www.team-cymru.org/IXP/
When I turned it up, I saw they were missing the IP ranges used by MICE and several others, so I let them know.
FYI, ARIN documents the IXP assignment it makes at the following; https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
On 10/27/2016 12:20 AM, David Farmer wrote:
ARIN documents the IXP assignment it makes at the following;
Thanks! I've brought that to the attention of Team Cymru too. -- Richard
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote:
Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc.
A number of MICE participants peer with various of these and other services from their own networks, exposing some or all of the routes available through MICE to many of those services, at least indirectly. Do you see a particular advantage to MICE's participants, or the Internet, by making MICE's routes more directly available to such projects? Thanks -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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