New subject: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

12 Jun 2023

      I stumbled across this thread again while looking for something else and thought I'd add a small update that we did get our Qwilt server deployed on-net for us a while back and it did indeed serve a relatively large burst of traffic volume during the live streaming episodes of Thursday Night Football.

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From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Justin Krejci <JKrejci@USINTERNET.COM>
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I believe it is just simpler for everyone involved when you are an NCTC member but I don't think it is a requirement necessarily. As Frank suggests, if you're interested in their services you should just reach out to them directly and they can tell you what they can and will do for you given your network and usage numbers. In my experience so far Qwilt are decent folks: I am still working through their process to get a deployment for our network and they have been competent and reasonable to work with so far.

To contrast the email subject, because they are in the open caching market, they do not carry only Amazon content.

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I don’t know if it’s exclusive to the NCTC or not – you could reach out to Qwilt and just ask them what options they have for you.

Frank

From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ryan Malek
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:28 AM
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Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? )

TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :)

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Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC
Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services

Ph. 641.420.7180

On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:

If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc-member-networks-with-next-generation-content-delivery-technology-and-services/<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=1645034986147-091-00230858&s=m2dshzzh&n=bp4b3tw7i&ms=0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.qwilt.com%2Fnctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc-member-networks-with-next-generation-content-delivery-technology-and-services%2F>

There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time).

Frank

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Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content.

We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon.

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Thanks Jeremy!

I'll give it another try.

Steve

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Steve,

        Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months.  They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer@amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already.

Jeremy Lumby
Minnesota VoIP
9217 17th Ave S #216
Bloomington, MN 55425
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D: 612-392-6814
F: 952-873-7425
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I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon.

Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉

Steve

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While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012.  They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit.  They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies.

The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays.

Dean

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Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

Has anyone else gotten an email like this?

On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info...

Thanks in advance,
Anthony

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll@telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote:
Hi David and Anthony,

I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season.
The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative.

To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc.

Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team?

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me.

Thank you so much for your cooperation.

Nataliya Coll
Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia
TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc.
One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360
Washington, DC 20005 USA
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Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

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