On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:

bird and LG isn't really a good match without hackery.

There has been a discussion here before.

I think he's talking about having a link from the participants page to any carrier that has their own looking glass. If you have links, I'd be happy to add them, it would be handy. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:00:06AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote:

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau@iphouse.net> wrote:

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bird and LG isn't really a good match without hackery.

There has been a discussion here before.

I think he's talking about having a link from the participants page to any carrier that has their own looking glass.

If you have links, I'd be happy to add them, it would be handy.

Specifically mentioned the route servers - drink more coffee! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau@iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Thanks, but I'll pass. I'm on my third Dunkin' Donuts XL today, and likely another before 4 EDT. ;-) Best, -M< On 9/27/11 1:07 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote:

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Specifically mentioned the route servers - drink more coffee!

Also specifically mentioned links to carriers looking glass servers, care to join me for a cup?

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On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 11:00 -0500, Jay Hanke wrote:

If you have links, I'd be happy to add them, it would be handy.

For the carriers listed on the participants page, these are the ones I'm aware of (or found via a Google search): http://lg.he.net/ (Reid from HE already mentioned this one.) http://noc.visi.com/lg http://as13746.net/ (seems to be down at the moment) Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

As for a MICE looking glass, what about doing something similar to what AT&T did. They took a Cisco Router, and peered it with their production routers. They set up the router with a read only login that is listed in the banner when you telnet to it. For security purposes you could set BIRD to never accept any routes from the "Looking Glass" router in the event that it somehow did get compromised. The AT&T looking glass can be viewed by telneting to route-server.ip.att.net I know the MICE rack is tight on space, however when the Cisco switch comes out, there would be plenty of room for a "Looking Glass Router" and since the MICE routing table is far smaller than the full Internet routing table, you would not need a whole lot of RAM in the router (256 meg should do the trick for a while). I would be willing to donate a used Cisco router if the MICE members were interested. Someone would need to supply the bandwidth to get to the "Looking Glass Router", however with only telnet access, I do not see any significant bandwidth consumption. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby@mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1