Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream
Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com
I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game: We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig.com/> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/55f4a9ea/CfJTVwWpSEaZLR--NOmK0Q?u=http://lists.... Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning.
What are your seeing during the games? What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps? Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman@arvig.com 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 07:43 Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote:
I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game:
*We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks.*
Frank
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Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks?
Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures.
*Ben Wiechman*
Director of Network Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig.com/>
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Sorry, I don’t know that level of detail. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:57 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream What are your seeing during the games? What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps? Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman@arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/d005f9f3/ghmcPBq_REuBMPsL7tmn6Q?u=http://arvig.com/> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 07:43 Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game: We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig.com/> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/55f4a9ea/CfJTVwWpSEaZLR--NOmK0Q?u=http://lists.... Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/75c65b9c/FIO9CegqWkqd6H1TmU4_Wg?u=http://lists.... ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/75c65b9c/FIO9CegqWkqd6H1TmU4_Wg?u=http://lists.... Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning.
Thanks. Time to experiment, since we haven't been able to get much of a response from anyone with specifics. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman@arvig.com 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 17:22 Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote:
Sorry, I don’t know that level of detail.
Frank
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Ben Wiechman *Sent:* Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:57 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream
What are your seeing during the games? What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps?
Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman@arvig.com 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/d005f9f3/ghmcPBq_REuBMPsL7tmn6Q?u=http://arvig.com/>
On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 07:43 Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com> wrote:
I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game:
*We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks.*
Frank
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Ben Wiechman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream
Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks?
Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures.
*Ben Wiechman*
Director of Network Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig.com/>
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Unfortunately that's 20k of our customers. :) Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 3:22 PM Mike Johnston <mjohnston@wiktel.com> wrote:
On 2023-11-01 07:56, Ben Wiechman wrote:
What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps?
The last time I cared about this level of detail is when I had DSL to my house, as was trying get every last drop of bandwidth I could get.
I am hitting a consistent 10.5Mbps during the pre-game and can confirm a drastic drop in throughput during commercials. I have a 4K firestick with non-4K TV and 100Mb symmetrical service. This is 30-second polling, 30-second average graph - [image: image.png] JW On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 4:09 PM Ben Wiechman < 0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that's 20k of our customers. :)
Ben Wiechman
Director of Network Strategy and Engineering
320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman@arvig.com
Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 3:22 PM Mike Johnston <mjohnston@wiktel.com> wrote:
On 2023-11-01 07:56, Ben Wiechman wrote:
What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps?
The last time I cared about this level of detail is when I had DSL to my house, as was trying get every last drop of bandwidth I could get.
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