Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering! Reid
These are IPv4 routes? On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler@he.net> wrote:
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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Yes. Please raise max-prefix limits as necessary. We'll start off with a small set of routes now, and after everyone has a chance to update, we'll announce about 40k routes. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 2:54 PM, Jason Hanke wrote:
These are IPv4 routes?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler@he.net <mailto:rfishler@he.net>> wrote:
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
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On Sep 28, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Rob Mosher <rmosher@HE.NET> wrote:
Yes. Please raise max-prefix limits as necessary. We'll start off with a small set of routes now, and after everyone has a chance to update, we'll announce about 40k routes.
So..care to fill us in on the changes? Nerds need data! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau@Geeks.ORG
Yes On Sep 28, 2016 1:54 PM, "Jason Hanke" <jayhanke@neutralpath.net> wrote:
These are IPv4 routes?
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler@he.net> wrote:
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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Just saw our BGP session go down …. I’m guessing someone added something already. Sep 28 14:02:56 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2: exceeds warning limit 1980 Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2 exceeds maximum prefix limit...shutdown Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.2 DOWN (Peer had exceeded the prefix limit) Removed limits for now. telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#show ip bgp summary <snip> Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend 206.108.255.1 53679 ESTAB 38d 2h48m 1831 0 49 0 206.108.255.2 53679 ESTAB 0h 0m39s 5167 0 49 0 telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer# Reid, can let us know how many IPv4 and IPv6 prefixes you’ll be sending, so we can adjust our limits? Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:50 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Hurricane and route servers Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering! Reid ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
As per Reid's email, we'll be sending around 40k, so I'd increase your limits by at least that much. Currently, we're sending a small subset (about 4500) to rs2. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Just saw our BGP session go down …. I’m guessing someone added something already.
Sep 28 14:02:56 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2: exceeds warning limit 1980
Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2 exceeds maximum prefix limit...shutdown
Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.2 DOWN (Peer had exceeded the prefix limit)
Removed limits for now.
telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#show ip bgp summary
<snip>
Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend
206.108.255.1 53679 ESTAB 38d 2h48m 1831 0 49 0
206.108.255.2 53679 ESTAB 0h 0m39s 5167 0 49 0
telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#
Reid, can let us know how many IPv4 and IPv6 prefixes you’ll be sending, so we can adjust our limits?
Frank
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Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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On 09/28/2016 02:32 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
As per Reid's email, we'll be sending around 40k, so I'd increase your limits by at least that much.
Currently, we're sending a small subset (about 4500) to rs2.
Perhaps give it a few days before sending more at all for folks to get caught up on the list? This was first mentioned only an hour ago. I would suspect that many folks had a limit set around 4k or so, which is more than double what it has been recently. It also may be beneficial to post a recommended prefix limit for the route servers on the website, and/or add AS53679 to peeringdb with said info. -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat@wiscnet.net 608-210-3965
As indicated, we're not going to be sending these routes right away. We're waiting for networks to have time to adjust. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:38 PM, Chris Wopat wrote:
On 09/28/2016 02:32 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
As per Reid's email, we'll be sending around 40k, so I'd increase your limits by at least that much.
Currently, we're sending a small subset (about 4500) to rs2.
Perhaps give it a few days before sending more at all for folks to get caught up on the list? This was first mentioned only an hour ago.
I would suspect that many folks had a limit set around 4k or so, which is more than double what it has been recently.
It also may be beneficial to post a recommended prefix limit for the route servers on the website, and/or add AS53679 to peeringdb with said info.
On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Rob Mosher <rmosher@HE.NET> wrote:
As indicated, we're not going to be sending these routes right away. We're waiting for networks to have time to adjust.
4500 is double what was on the route-servers prior to today, so if anyone had max prefix set at a same amount (2x current prefix ct), you tripped everyone’s limits by sending the small subset. from stats page:
This was only sent to RS2. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:44 PM, Andrew Hoyos wrote:
On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Rob Mosher <rmosher@HE.NET <mailto:rmosher@HE.NET>> wrote:
As indicated, we're not going to be sending these routes right away. We're waiting for networks to have time to adjust.
4500 is double what was on the route-servers prior to today, so if anyone had max prefix set at a same amount (2x current prefix ct), you tripped everyone’s limits by sending the small subset.
from stats page:
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On 09/28/2016 02:41 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
As indicated, we're not going to be sending these routes right away. We're waiting for networks to have time to adjust.
+3k were just sent on RS2 at about 2pm Central, more than doubling what was previously sent. The first mention on the mailing list was at 1:49pm central. -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat@wiscnet.net 608-210-3965
+1, we also tripped. Thankfully there was no unannounced (or lightly announced) maintenance on RS1 that overlapped. However, (sincerely), thank you for peering. -Michael
-----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Wopat Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Hurricane and route servers
On 09/28/2016 02:41 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
As indicated, we're not going to be sending these routes right away. We're waiting for networks to have time to adjust.
+3k were just sent on RS2 at about 2pm Central, more than doubling what was previously sent.
The first mention on the mailing list was at 1:49pm central.
-- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat@wiscnet.net 608-210-3965
Was just looking at this as well. Appears there are a few folks leaking _6939_ prefixes/paths on to the IX: NebraskaLink and Vaultas - may want to double check these hoyosa@er1.511.msp> show route receive-protocol bgp 206.108.255.2 | match 6939 * 24.51.44.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.72.210.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.72.212.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.223.120.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 30688 30164 I * 65.161.180.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 209 17046 I * 72.14.74.0/24 206.108.255.100 53480 6939 5009 I * 199.47.66.0/24 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 6461 32307 I -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa@gmail.com
On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> wrote:
Just saw our BGP session go down …. I’m guessing someone added something already.
Sep 28 14:02:56 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2: exceeds warning limit 1980 Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2 exceeds maximum prefix limit...shutdown Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.2 DOWN (Peer had exceeded the prefix limit)
Removed limits for now.
telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#show ip bgp summary <snip> Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend 206.108.255.1 53679 ESTAB 38d 2h48m 1831 0 49 0 206.108.255.2 53679 ESTAB 0h 0m39s 5167 0 49 0 telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#
Reid, can let us know how many IPv4 and IPv6 prefixes you’ll be sending, so we can adjust our limits?
Frank
From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:50 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Hurricane and route servers
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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It would be great if these networks could fix their filters, but at the same time, can we get some filters on the RS to drop any announcements with 6939 in the path that we don't announce directly? Should be a trivial filter. Thanks -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:35 PM, Andrew Hoyos wrote:
Was just looking at this as well. Appears there are a few folks leaking _6939_ prefixes/paths on to the IX:
NebraskaLink and Vaultas - may want to double check these
hoyosa@er1.511.msp> show route receive-protocol bgp 206.108.255.2 | match 6939 * 24.51.44.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.72.210.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.72.212.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 1299 174 30612 I * 24.223.120.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 30688 30164 I * 65.161.180.0/23 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 209 17046 I * 72.14.74.0/24 206.108.255.100 53480 6939 5009 I * 199.47.66.0/24 206.108.255.70 16851 6939 6461 32307 I
-- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa@gmail.com
On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> wrote:
Just saw our BGP session go down …. I’m guessing someone added something already.
Sep 28 14:02:56 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2: exceeds warning limit 1980 Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: No. of prefix received from BGP Peer 206.108.255.2 exceeds maximum prefix limit...shutdown Sep 28 14:02:57 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.2 DOWN (Peer had exceeded the prefix limit)
Removed limits for now.
telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#show ip bgp summary <snip> Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend 206.108.255.1 53679 ESTAB 38d 2h48m 1831 0 49 0 206.108.255.2 53679 ESTAB 0h 0m39s 5167 0 49 0 telnet@Premier's_MLXe-4_facing_Spencer#
Reid, can let us know how many IPv4 and IPv6 prefixes you’ll be sending, so we can adjust our limits?
Frank
From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:50 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Hurricane and route servers
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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Will there be any changes to IPv6 prefix counts to/from the route servers? ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Reid Fishler [rfishler@HE.NET] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:49 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Hurricane and route servers Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering! Reid ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Negative. We announce our full set of IPv6 routes currently. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:48 PM, Justin Krejci wrote:
Will there be any changes to IPv6 prefix counts to/from the route servers?
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Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
Reid
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We're now announcing just over 38k routes to RS2. I'll be sending the same set to RS1 shortly unless there are any objections. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:49 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
Negative. We announce our full set of IPv6 routes currently. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:48 PM, Justin Krejci wrote:
Will there be any changes to IPv6 prefix counts to/from the route servers?
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Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
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On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 04:56:23PM -0400, Rob Mosher wrote:
We're now announcing just over 38k routes to RS2. I'll be sending the same set to RS1 shortly unless there are any objections.
Indeed.. $ birdc show route | fgrep -c NASN_6939 38084 -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn@iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades
Sending the same routes to RS1 now as well -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 10/4/2016 4:56 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
We're now announcing just over 38k routes to RS2. I'll be sending the same set to RS1 shortly unless there are any objections. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:49 PM, Rob Mosher wrote:
Negative. We announce our full set of IPv6 routes currently. -- Rob Mosher Senior Network and Software Engineer Hurricane Electric / AS6939 On 9/28/2016 3:48 PM, Justin Krejci wrote:
Will there be any changes to IPv6 prefix counts to/from the route servers?
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Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 01:49:30PM -0500, Reid Fishler wrote:
Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering!
I've bumped up the route servers to 55k for HE's connection. (Normal connections are limited to 1k without an override). -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn@iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades
On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@iphouse.net> wrote:
I've bumped up the route servers to 55k for HE's connection. (Normal connections are limited to 1k without an override).
Can we document that here (perhaps with any other relevant technical detail about route-servers… OS/versions/config/etc)? I was not aware of any max-prefix settings on the route-servers. http://micemn.net/technical.html A peering DB record maybe a good idea here as well, for the route-servers, so folks have a general idea of what to set max-pfx to, etc. IE: https://peeringdb.com/net/6834 -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa@gmail.com
On 09/29/2016 01:26 PM, Andrew Hoyos wrote:
On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@iphouse.net> wrote:
I've bumped up the route servers to 55k for HE's connection. (Normal connections are limited to 1k without an override).
Can we document that here (perhaps with any other relevant technical detail about route-servers… OS/versions/config/etc)? I was not aware of any max-prefix settings on the route-servers.
Done. I wasn't aware of this limit either. I'm not personally in favor of documenting version numbers. It is likely to get out-of-date, and I don't see the reason. That said, if someone sends the information and we have more ACKs than NAKs, I'll add it.
A peering DB record maybe a good idea here as well, for the route-servers, so folks have a general idea of what to set max-pfx to, etc. IE: https://peeringdb.com/net/6834
I think this is a great idea. Jay, if you agree, can you set this up? I'm assuming you're managing the existing MICE entry in peeringdb, as I believe you handle the peering@micemn.net email account. -- Richard
I'm not set up in the new peeringdb system for MICE yet. Old system for IX was you send in an email and ask for changes. I'll make the updates as soon as I'm approved. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager@wiktel.com> wrote:
On 09/29/2016 01:26 PM, Andrew Hoyos wrote:
On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn@iphouse.net> wrote:
I've bumped up the route servers to 55k for HE's connection. (Normal connections are limited to 1k without an override).
Can we document that here (perhaps with any other relevant technical detail about route-servers… OS/versions/config/etc)? I was not aware of any max-prefix settings on the route-servers.
Done. I wasn't aware of this limit either.
I'm not personally in favor of documenting version numbers. It is likely to get out-of-date, and I don't see the reason. That said, if someone sends the information and we have more ACKs than NAKs, I'll add it.
A peering DB record maybe a good idea here as well, for the route-servers, so folks have a general idea of what to set max-pfx to, etc. IE: https://peeringdb.com/net/6834
I think this is a great idea.
Jay, if you agree, can you set this up? I'm assuming you're managing the existing MICE entry in peeringdb, as I believe you handle the peering@micemn.net email account.
-- Richard
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