All, As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end. The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE. We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan. Thoughts/Discussion? s *Shaun Carlson *Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
I am ok with that. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Shaun Carlson Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:33 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Upcoming Elections All, As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end. The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE. We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan. Thoughts/Discussion? s Shaun Carlson Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com<mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Works for me... Otherwise, I might have to step in. ;-) Owen On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:40 , "Radzwon, Tony" <Tony.Radzwon@INTEGRATELECOM.COM> wrote:
I am ok with that.
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All,
As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end.
The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE.
We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan.
Thoughts/Discussion?
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Do I hear a second......... Sounds like Owen nominated himself ;) On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Owen DeLong <owend@he.net> wrote:
Works for me... Otherwise, I might have to step in. ;-)
Owen
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I am ok with that.****
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That works for us. Best, -M< On Sep 16, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson@ARVIG.COM<mailto:shaun.carlson@ARVIG.COM>> wrote: All, As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end. The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE. We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan. Thoughts/Discussion? s Shaun Carlson Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com<mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king. I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct. I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
On Monday, September 16, 2013 3:01pm, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> said:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
I do agree with Jay on this on all counts, and think we should vote on it in Oct. Thanks, Jay. -Nevin -- Nevin Lyne -- Founder & Director of Technology -- Gippy's Internet Solutions, LLC. - Arcustech, LLC. -- http://gippy.net/ - http://arcustech.com/ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Are the MICE bylaws posted anywhere online? Thanks, -M< On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
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I believe they are coming as part of the web site refresh. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty@akamai.com> wrote:
Are the MICE bylaws posted anywhere online?
Thanks,
-M<
On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
-- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net
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Can we get a temporary, but valid, copy posted now for reference to the current thread? Best, -M< On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net> wrote:
I believe they are coming as part of the web site refresh.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty@akamai.com> wrote:
Are the MICE bylaws posted anywhere online?
Thanks,
-M<
On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
-- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net
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Please see attached... s *Shaun Carlson *Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty@akamai.com> wrote:
Can we get a temporary, but valid, copy posted now for reference to the current thread?
Best,
-M<
On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net> wrote:
I believe they are coming as part of the web site refresh.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty@akamai.com> wrote:
Are the MICE bylaws posted anywhere online?
Thanks,
-M<
On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke@MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
-- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net
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Resending Bylaws per our current discussion. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com
Thanks. So effectively the conversation is dissolution of the LLC, not a conversion. Filing the 501c6 paperwork isn't hard. Or costly. OIXA paid a CPA $900 to assist and we did most of the work with respect to the questions: http://www.open-ix.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/OIXA_501c6.pdf The legal cost is standing up the corp. I believe _you can_ take donations for the purpose of the 501c6 formation as long as you have the corporation and an EIN in place. I am not positive that an LLC is compatible with a 501c6 filing, but that's why you need a lawyer. :) The other problem we have is anti-trust. Please feel free to use our policy. In fact, we'll have it modified to name your group if you'd like us to (OIX will, that is) http://www.open-ix.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/OIX_AntiTrust_Compliance.p... We post everything there in including bylaws and articles. Feel free to use them to your hearts content. Best, -M< On Oct 22, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson@ARVIG.COM> wrote:
Resending Bylaws per our current discussion.
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Thanks Marty! We'll review and discuss. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty@akamai.com> wrote:
Thanks. So effectively the conversation is dissolution of the LLC, not a conversion.
Filing the 501c6 paperwork isn't hard. Or costly. OIXA paid a CPA $900 to assist and we did most of the work with respect to the questions:
http://www.open-ix.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/OIXA_501c6.pdf
The legal cost is standing up the corp. I believe _you can_ take donations for the purpose of the 501c6 formation as long as you have the corporation and an EIN in place. I am not positive that an LLC is compatible with a 501c6 filing, but that's why you need a lawyer. :)
The other problem we have is anti-trust. Please feel free to use our policy. In fact, we'll have it modified to name your group if you'd like us to (OIX will, that is)
http://www.open-ix.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/OIX_AntiTrust_Compliance.p...
We post everything there in including bylaws and articles. Feel free to use them to your hearts content.
Best,
-M<
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Resending Bylaws per our current discussion.
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On 9/16/13 15:01 , Jay Hanke wrote:
Thoughts/Discussion?
The original purpose of the term limits was to push out the founders to make sure the exchange isn't dominated by a couple of personalities or companies. We're likely beyond that now that all of the original gang of three are termed out making it somewhat harder to become a MICE king.
Let's be honest Jay, you just didn't want to be stuck on the board for ever and ever. :)
I would propose that we solve the general case rather than the immediate crises. I believe Reid was elected in May 2011 so he still has 6-7 months left. So there is plenty of time, we could vote at UG in Oct.
I propose we vote at the UG on extending the maximum consecutive terms to 2 (3 years each) then requiring at least 1 year break.
I'd be fine with simple 3 year terms, no term limit. Let people go as long as they are willing to go and we are willing to have them. -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer@umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
It makes sense to have a mixture of representation, and Reid certainly has been an articulate supporter of MICE so that can make sense if he's willing. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Shaun Carlson Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:33 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Upcoming Elections All, As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end. The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE. We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan. Thoughts/Discussion? s Shaun Carlson Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson@arvig.com<mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1
Fine with me. On 9/16/13 14:32 , Shaun Carlson wrote:
All,
As we approach UG 9, Reid Fischler's term is coming to an end.
The SC has been discussing his term and feel that MICE needs someone with a larger reach (read Global, not just local or regional) to fill that position, especially with the push for growth on the exchange that we currently have. With that need comes a limited number of candidates who can fit that role on MICE.
We have discussed several options and, at this time, the SC would like to recommend that we extend Reid's term for a period of time while we discuss a long-term plan.
Thoughts/Discussion?
s
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