I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions.

It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum.

Corey

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> wrote:

Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already done so.

 

 

From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby@MNVOIP.COM>
Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM
To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

 

They did it to MICE back in December

 

From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

 

I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same thing here?

-------- Forwarded Message --------

Subject:	Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd)
Date:	Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC)
From:	Chris Caputo <ccaputo@seattleix.net>
To:	members@seattleix.net

FYI from Google...

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700
From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops@google.com>
To: info@seattleix.net
Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

Dear Internet Exchange,
 
As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the change in your IX in the next few weeks.
 
We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering
 
We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they desire to do so.
 
Sincerely,
Google Network Operations

 

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