It has been discussed in the past, however Google wanted MICE to cover all of the costs related to it. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2024 5:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Peering with Google no longer available at MICE IX Has MICE requested a cache box from Google? ------ Original Message ------
From "Anthony Anderberg" <AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> To MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Date 8/22/2024 4:28:18 PM Subject Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Peering with Google no longer available at MICE IX
I've been surprised that folks haven't been talking about this more and am curious about everyone's thoughts - as MICE user-members but also in terms of MICE leadership and direction.
As a user-member I feel somewhat conflicted: on one hand in an effort to maximize performance I could obtain transport to Chicago and connect to Google there, but I feel like doing so is making Google's problem into my problem and that doing so undercuts the goals of MICE. We've seen content providers move MICE's larger members toward local direct private peering, and I can understand rational behind that even if it shifts traffic away from MICE - but Google is proposing remote direct peering at member's cost which feels different.
Of course nobody expects Google to subsidize our corner of the world, I am just curious if there are other aspects we should be thinking about.
Thanks in advance, Anthony
On 8/22/24, 7:24 AM, "Google Peering Operations No-reply" <peering-ops-noreply@google.com <mailto:peering-ops-noreply@google.com>> wrote:
Dear Peer,
This is a reminder that peering with Google will no longer be available at MICE Internet Exchange from 16th of September.
As a result of unsustainable overheads associated with connecting to an IX using remote waves, we have made a decision to stop connecting to IXs that way. MICE IX falls under the category of IXs we remotely connect to.
We will withdraw prefixes on 16th of September, and disconnect from the IX on 24th of September.
We realize this may cause inconvenience for some peers. If there is another mutually present IX that we can peer in, we will be happy to help set up a bilateral session there - no multilaterals. If there is no mutual IX, traffic may have to be exchanged via indirect paths (transit links).
We are not looking to connect to any additional IXs to replace the IX that we are leaving, but if you are considering connecting to another IX and not sure if Google will also be leaving that IX because of this measure, please reach out to us and we can share more.
Thank you for your understanding.
Sincerely, Google Network Operations