As a small business owner that typically only exchanges an average max of a couple megabit per day on my 1 gig copper MICE port, I still feel I should be paying a maintenance fee.  I can understand how free attracts new members, however maybe it should only be free for the first year.  Lets face it, if anyone who is contemplating the fee would ever be a serious member, they know the costs associated with good network equipment, and the proper environment to run it in. 

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I guess that's what I was really asking.  In understand the donations, etc... But what do those amount to (i.e. what are our true, underlying costs)

The growth rate is important as well... I'd like to understand our past growth rate and then we should try to estimate our future growth rate so we can be sure to build in enough overhead to cover that.

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 15:40, "Mike Bushard, Jr" <mike.bushard@ARVIG.COM> wrote:

I think we need to look at what the costs should be, not what they are today.

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On Jul 21, 2012 3:24 PM, "Shaun Carlson" <shaun.carlson@arvig.com> wrote:
What are MICE's current operating costs and what do the growth rates over the past 24-36 months look like?

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 15:20, Mike Horwath <drechsau@IPHOUSE.NET> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:13:49PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I would not want to see the 10G customers subsidizing free 1G
>> connections. I have no problem with the idea of $150/10G (though
>> many would likely prefer an annual $1,800). However, I would suggest
>> that if you are charging $150/10G, at least $20/1G ($240/1G/yr)
>> would also be appropriate. (IIRC, the 10G ports are not 10x the cost
>> of the 1G ports and there's some amount of overhead for maintaining
>> the account, etc. This would also serve as somewhat of an incentive
>> for people to move to 10G instead of multiple 1G ports which I think
>> is better for the exchange and its participants.
>
> I've always thought the idea of charging for the 1Gbps ports to be
> something that should be done but originally I was in the minority.
>
> Free is cool too, though :)
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