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MICE UG Reminder
by Jay Hanke Nov. 9, 2011

Nov. 9, 2011

Just a reminder, the MICE meeting is tomorrow at 3 at Grumpy's on Washington in Minneapolis. If someone wants to see the the exchange point before the meeting I'll be available from 11 AM until the start of the meeting at 511. Thanks, -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: micelg.usinternet.com
by Justin Krejci Nov. 7, 2011

Nov. 7, 2011

Should be up in a few ------Original Message------ From: Jeremy Lumby Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] micelg.usinternet.com Sent: Nov 5, 2011 4:46 PM It seems like http://micelg.usinternet.com is down. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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micelg.usinternet.com
by Jeremy Lumby Nov. 5, 2011

Nov. 5, 2011

It seems like http://micelg.usinternet.com is down. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig
by Justin Krejci Oct. 31, 2011

Oct. 31, 2011

Dave is getting that ball rolling already on his side. So I think by Monday we should be able to take a look and do any AS padding or other tuning if necessary and then have Marty open it back up again to full speed. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Sent: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: > The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about > the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the > results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Northern Light Gigapop Outage
by David Farmer Oct. 31, 2011

Oct. 31, 2011

We were making some scheduled changes this morning between 04:00 and 08:00, this caused the TCAM to blow on our router connected to MICE. We were partially recovered by about 12:30. However, we didn't get our MICE connectivity fixed until after rebooting that router, at about 15:00. We had a P1 case open with Cisco, and wanted them to pull as much info out of it before rebooting it. I know some of you probably got trouble tickets from this, we're sorry. And we'll try not to make the same mistakes again, but I can't promise we won't make new mistakes. ;) -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig
by Justin Krejci Oct. 30, 2011

Oct. 30, 2011

We were pulling close to 600 mbps when it was fully uncapped which I think was yielding close to 3x in output rates from the cluster. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Sent: Oct 30, 2011 11:00 AM On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > How much is required? > > How much is wanted? We've been at (or over?) 500 Mb/s of cache fill. We've got a commit for 250 Mb/s from USI + the U peering. Depending on how much offload the U provides we're either full or just about full. I think we need to get to about 1 Gb/s total split between 2-4 carriers. That would give us some breathing room up to about 4 Gb/s of Akamai traffic. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig
by Steve Howard Oct. 30, 2011

Oct. 30, 2011

Hello, Subject says it all... Hurricane Electric moved to a 10Gig interface on the CNS switch this evening. Thanks, STeve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Akamai Issues
by Jay Hanke Oct. 27, 2011

Oct. 27, 2011

The MICE Akamai cluster is currently running at reduced capacity. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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High Speed Internet in Welcome/Sherburn/Trimont
by James Montz Oct. 25, 2011

Oct. 25, 2011

Anyone able, or provide contacts/leads for High Speed (>6Mbps) connectivity in the cities of Sherburn, Welcome, or Trimont? Please contact me off list. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Participants List Web Page
by Richard Laager Oct. 21, 2011

Oct. 21, 2011

The participants.html web page is out-of-date. Given this is a volunteer-run exchange, I've done a bunch of updating work myself. (See the attachment.) I believe I have everything current and complete, except as noted below. This originally started because I wanted looking glass addresses listed. I've since changed my thinking on that. If you list a looking glass in your peeringdb.com entry, bgp.he.net (to which we already link) picks that up automatically. This saves us from having to maintain that data on the MICE participants page. Accordingly, I'd like to urge Visi to create a peeringdb.com record and list their Looking Glass URL. (No shaming implied... I don't have a looking glass running... yet.) Should the MICE AS have a peeringdb.com entry? We could list the route server there, for the same reason. Is there value in linking to the respective peeringdb.com links? If so, should the anchor text be the carrier's name, or a new column? We are still missing contacts for these networks: South Dakota Networks Dakota Carrier Network Northern Lights GigaPoP Compudyne MyTelepath Genesis Wireless/RevNetData Jaguar Communications NU Telecom Dakota Carrier Network was assigned two IPv4 addresses, but only one IPv6 address. I assume the IPv6 assignment was an oversight. Is Hurricane Electric still planning to upgrade to 10Gig? I see they have both 1Gig and 10Gig ports assigned. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE UG 6 Sponsor!
by Jay Hanke Oct. 21, 2011

Oct. 21, 2011

A special thanks to FWR has volunteered to sponsor MICE UG 6! Here is the info for the meeting MICE UG 6- Throwback Meeting at Grumpy's November 9th, 2011 starting at 3:00pm Volunteering makes MICE work. If you or your company is looking for a way to contribute here is a partial list. -Donate money for our own IPv4 and IPv6 addresses from ARIN, we only have one year left on our existing address space -Legal- The Steering Committee needs help writing the bylaws. -Harass your upstream provider (or any provider you know for that matter) to connect to MICE -Fill out your PeeringDB entry -Create a looking glass -Write a blog article about MICE. -Do something not on the list. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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mailing list errors
by Mike Horwath Oct. 20, 2011

Oct. 20, 2011

Err First Last Address --- ----- ----- ------- 2 10/18 10/19 Richard Laager <RLAAGER(a)WIKTEL.COM> Last error: 5.7.1 554 5.7.1 SMTP AUTH is required for rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM. Contact support(a)wiktel.com for assistance. (p9K0IjAI005904) I have been in contact with this person before in the past. I am going to let LISTSERV do what it thinks is best - which will be to bounce the user from the list after 10 days of failures. I will not interfere or try to stop it because of a misbehaving remote mail server. (yes, I am poking at you WIKTEL.COM) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1
by Matthew Beckwell Oct. 20, 2011

Oct. 20, 2011

Could I convince the owner of an Extreme Networks device with license plate: 00:04:96:37:14:c3 to disable cause of the multicast traffic that seems to be directed at the exchange every 2 minutes? :) No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 1 0.000000 69.147.218.100 224.0.0.1 IGMP 60 V2 Membership Query, general Frame 1: 60 bytes on wire (480 bits), 60 bytes captured (480 bits) Ethernet II, Src: ExtremeN_37:14:c3 (00:04:96:37:14:c3), Dst: IPv4mcast_00:00:01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 69.147.218.100 (69.147.218.100), Dst: 224.0.0.1 (224.0.0.1) Internet Group Management Protocol -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net<mailto:matthewb@aitech.net> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New MICE Looking Glass
by Anthony Anderberg Oct. 20, 2011

Oct. 20, 2011

This weekend while diligently avoiding my wife's "honey-do list" I wrote a script to parse stats via telnet from Jeremy and Doug's excellent new looking glass. I didn't see any commands that would give the number of MICE peers, so that number is actually the number of gateways in the routing tables... and of course the total number of connected addresses is just for fun. If anyone sees other numbers worth graphing let me know. I also spent a little time on the Weathermap, same username and password as before: http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/ Hopefully you'll all be more impressed than my wife was... Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New MICE Looking Glass
by James Stahr Oct. 19, 2011

Oct. 19, 2011

At 05:03 PM 10/18/2011, you wrote: >This weekend while diligently avoiding my wife's >"honey-do list" I wrote a script to parse stats >via telnet from Jeremy and Doug's excellent new >looking glass. I didn't see any commands that >would give the number of MICE peers, so that >number is actually the number of gateways in the >routing tables and of course the total number >of connected addresses is just for fun. If >anyone sees other numbers worth graphing let me >know. I also spent a little time on the >Weathermap, same username and password as before: ><http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/>http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/ > >Hopefully you'll all be more impressed than my wife was Nice work. My wife isn't impressed either, but I can impress my kids with graphs! One thing you could add would be this BGP Monitoring template - it baselines the # of prefixes for each BGP neighbor and then has additional lines for inbound/outbound updates. BGP Monitor - this one worked for me http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=36770&start=30 BGP - "broken" version - I couldn't get this one to work right, but you can see what it does http://crunchtools.com/software/crunchtools/cacti/grpah-bgp-neighbors/ Here's an example of the graphs produced from the BGP sessions on our MICE router: <http://www.elizabethandjames.com/temp/AS53679-bgp-monitor.png>http://www.elizabethandjames.com/temp/AS53679-bgp-monitor.png http://www.elizabethandjames.com/temp/AS6939-bgp-monitor.png -James ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Akamai Traffic
by Jay Hanke Oct. 18, 2011

Oct. 18, 2011

The new Akamai cluster has started to take some traffic. About 930 Mb/s as of 16:30. Thanks to everyone who contributed! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Port Fees
by Jay Hanke Oct. 14, 2011

Oct. 14, 2011

I'd like to hear discussion on charging initial and upgrade one time fees to MICE members needing additional or new ports on the main switch. Perhaps something like: 1G $250 (+optic) 10G $1500 (+optic) We would use the money to operate the exchange. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai traffic
by Frank Bulk Oct. 13, 2011

Oct. 13, 2011

There was discussion on NANOG today about Akamai usage spiking because of Apple iOS updates. I tried to find the graph on MICE's Cacti page to see if it saw the same spike, but if it's there I couldn't find it. Can someone point it out to me? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Bylaws/Member control agreement
by Jay Hanke Oct. 13, 2011

Oct. 13, 2011

We had an offer from a telecom attorney here in Mankato to draft the bylaws and member control agreement for MICE for $500. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New MICE Looking Glass
by Frank Bulk Oct. 13, 2011

Oct. 13, 2011

There's no DNS resolution set up on that router -- is that a BCP, or something that can be added? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Looking Glass I just wanted to let everyone know that MICE now has a public looking glass. I donated an old Cisco 7120 Router, and Doug from the ipHouse configured/installed it, as well as provided internet access to it. You can look at the routes by telneting to route-server.micemn.net The username is provided in the log in banner. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New MICE Looking Glass
by Justin Krejci Oct. 11, 2011

Oct. 11, 2011

The possibility of of hijacking your DNS queries goes up from zero to nonzero when enabling DNS lookups on the router also it can cause delays on some commands when their are DNS resolution issues. Unless you have a specific reason to have DNS lookups enabled on a cisco, I prefer to have DNS lookups disabled. I didn't check what all commands are allowed with the rviews account but it could be locked down pretty tight to only the various show commands specific to BGP routing data. ------Original Message------ From: Frank Bulk Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Looking Glass Sent: Oct 10, 2011 9:44 PM There's no DNS resolution set up on that router -- is that a BCP, or something that can be added? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Looking Glass I just wanted to let everyone know that MICE now has a public looking glass. I donated an old Cisco 7120 Router, and Doug from the ipHouse configured/installed it, as well as provided internet access to it. You can look at the routes by telneting to route-server.micemn.net The username is provided in the log in banner. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New MICE Looking Glass
by Justin Krejci Oct. 11, 2011

Oct. 11, 2011

Yep it does. Do a 'show bgp ipv6 ...' for ipv6 joy ------Original Message------ From: Steve Howard Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Looking Glass Sent: Oct 10, 2011 8:03 PM Jeremy, I like it. Thanks for your work on this. Does your router support IPv6? I couldn't figure out how to see IPv6 routes. Thanks! Steve On 10/10/2011 02:31 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I just wanted to let everyone know that MICE now has a public looking glass. I donated an old Cisco 7120 Router, and Doug from the ipHouse configured/installed it, as well as provided internet access to it. You can look at the routes by telneting to route-server.micemn.net The username is provided in the log in banner. > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > E-Fax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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New MICE Looking Glass
by Jeremy Lumby Oct. 11, 2011

Oct. 11, 2011

I just wanted to let everyone know that MICE now has a public looking glass. I donated an old Cisco 7120 Router, and Doug from the ipHouse configured/installed it, as well as provided internet access to it. You can look at the routes by telneting to route-server.micemn.net The username is provided in the log in banner. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE ASN Annual Fee
by Jay Hanke Oct. 7, 2011

Oct. 7, 2011

We need $100 to renew the MICE ASN with ARIN. Please donate... Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Server Issue
by Jay Hanke Oct. 7, 2011

Oct. 7, 2011

Akamai was going through their final check on the servers and the software needs to be reloaded on the machines. Any volunteers? You'll need to be able to burn an ISO to a CD and have access to a monitor and keyboard. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai BGP
by Jay Hanke Oct. 5, 2011

Oct. 5, 2011

Can someone look and see if the Akamai BGP sessions came up to the route servers? Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Connection to Sungard: Not really a MICE question...
by Steve Howard Oct. 5, 2011

Oct. 5, 2011

Hello, This isn't really a MICE question, but I figure somebody on the list would know the answer and I'd prefer to send the business to a MICE member. I have a customer that is looking to get to the Sungard data center on Energy Park Drive. Does anybody know of any reasonably priced ethernet connectivity to get there from 511? Thanks, Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: MICE-DISCUSS Digest - 1 Oct 2011 to 3 Oct 2011 (#2011-99)
by Bradley Urberg Carlson Oct. 4, 2011

Oct. 4, 2011

I've seen that when flood-pinging BSD boxes (but not Linux). If you can throttle the rate down (-i 0.1), rather than flood pinging, then the artifact may go away. > Sending 1000, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 69.147.218.1, timeout is 2 seconds: > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Pending MICE Turn up status
by Jay Hanke Oct. 4, 2011

Oct. 4, 2011

We have a number of connections in various stages of turning up. -DCN (Layer 3 connectivity, no peering) -MyTelepath (Layer 2 connectivity) -Implex (X-conn installed) -Visi (Initial IP allocation) -Paul Bunyan Telephone (Initial IP allocation) -Wikstrom Telephone (Initial IP allocation) If you need any assistance getting going just ask! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG 6
by Andrew Ramberg Oct. 1, 2011

Oct. 1, 2011

On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 16:32 -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > Here is the info for the next Users Group Meeting: > > MICE UG 6- Throwback Meeting at Grumpy's November 9th, 2011 starting at 3:00pm > > Grumpy's > 1111 Washington Ave S > Minneapolis, MN > > A special thanks to FWR has volunteered to sponsor MICE UG 6! > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: Akamai Install Update
by Justin Krejci Sept. 30, 2011

Sept. 30, 2011

Having only just started using the 4900M I don't have too much experience yet but it does 10GBase-T pretty well. Are these deliveries the last pieces of the Akamai puzzle then at MICE. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Install Update Sent: Sep 30, 2011 9:30 AM Akamai is sending 2 Horizontal PDU to replace the verticals that don't fit. They should arrive in about a week. The Cisco 4900m router just shipped tracking# 795243703999, & should be there by the 4th. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Cisco 4500
by Jay Hanke Sept. 30, 2011

Sept. 30, 2011

Without objection, I think we can power off and remove the 4500. I don't think anything is left on it. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Install Update
by Jay Hanke Sept. 30, 2011

Sept. 30, 2011

Akamai is sending 2 Horizontal PDU to replace the verticals that don't fit. They should arrive in about a week. The Cisco 4900m router just shipped tracking# 795243703999, & should be there by the 4th. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Cluster Help
by Jay Hanke Sept. 28, 2011

Sept. 28, 2011

We need volunteers for the following: -Install PDU and wire up server and switch power cords -Install Akamai router (not yet arrived) -Power up servers and do any remaining initial provisioning (After IP connectivity is established) -Akamai built in Route Servers Please reply to the list so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Servers are in!
by Jay Hanke Sept. 28, 2011

Sept. 28, 2011

The Akamai servers are in! I'm going to be at 511 about 3 pm. If you have time and want to help out come on down! It looks like we're going to need a couple of rack mount PDUs. If you have one or two available please contact me. I think we're going to need about 12 outlets but I'm not sure exactly until I see the equipment. From the sounds of it the Akamai supplied strips might not fit in the enclosure. Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Looking Glasses
by Richard Laager Sept. 27, 2011

Sept. 27, 2011

I'd like to see http://micemn.net/participants.html contain links to the carriers' looking glass websites, when they have one. Is that something we can do? I can certainly do some Googling and provide an initial diff for that page, if desired. Is there a looking glass running on the route servers? Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Marketing Stuff
by Jay Hanke Sept. 24, 2011

Sept. 24, 2011

Is someone willing to make up a one page flyer explaining MICE? It would be handed out at trade shows etc... Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: Remote MICE members?
by Anthony Anderberg Sept. 21, 2011

Sept. 21, 2011

> Frankly, I'm surprised at the outpouring of love for spanning-tree I don't know anyone that loves spanning-tree, most people have more of an abusive older-brother sort of relationship. I'd lean toward STP being a necessary evil in a L2 environment where physical control isn't absolute for all the reasons David mentioned. I also like a bunch of the things Andrew brought up, but don't have a good feel for what the administration would feel like. It seems like I've spent the last 20 years either being disappointed in the performance of simple designs or being disappointed by the unpredictability of complicated designs... Anyway, this morning I've changed the main Juniper switch bridge priority and it appears to have asserted itself as the root. Steve/Jay/Doug - can you guys confirm that things look correct on your switches, I'll send you the Juniper's current settings off-list. Beyond that we can evolve in the direction the group thinks is best. Cheers, Anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Remote MICE members?
by Steve Howard Sept. 21, 2011

Sept. 21, 2011

Hello, CNS has received a request from one of its customers for a direct connection to MICE. If the consensus is to move forward, we could haul the MICE VLAN to that customer (and presumably to any other CNS member or customer who wants a direct MICE connection). This could result in the MICE VLAN appearing at various places throughout the region. I think that this could be a good thing for MICE, but if not managed correctly, it has the potential to be troublesome for problem isolation. MICE already has remote switches at 511. Other exchanges often have switches connected throughout their city. In this case, it is a little of both – except that the individual remote connections could be farther away in different directions. Does that matter? Whether we add remote connections or not, I'd like to see us come up with a plan for spanning tree. It probably would be best to make sure that our spanning tree root is one of the MICE 10Gig switches (probably the main one?). Or, alternatively, we could disable/filter spanning tree altogether and do MAC filtering for loop prevention. I think that spanning tree has its limitations, but it is much easier to maintain then MAC filtering. It looks like the current spanning tree root is 00:0c:db:fe:af:00 which looks like a Brocade device. Hmmm... We might want to change that... What does everybody think? Are there better ways to do this? Thanks, Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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SDN 10G Mice Upgrade
by Jay Hanke Sept. 9, 2011

Sept. 9, 2011

Mitch, We're starting to run low on 10 G ports on the main stack. Is SDN still planning to upgrade? Also note, you're likely going to see a large spike in traffic when Akamai goes live on the exchange. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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route server admin
by Jay Hanke Sept. 8, 2011

Sept. 8, 2011

Is there someone with route server admin rights that could add a peer online? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Meeting Dates
by Jay Hanke Sept. 6, 2011

Sept. 6, 2011

The next MICE meeting dates will be: November 9th, 2011 May 9th, 2012 November 14th, 2012 Thanks, -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 6, 2011

Sept. 6, 2011

I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or two deeper. Thanks, Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Bird Help
by Jay Hanke Sept. 3, 2011

Sept. 3, 2011

Is someone around build a couple of new bgp sessions for a new carrier on the route servers? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IPv6 Route Server Check-in
by Matthew Beckwell Aug. 30, 2011

Aug. 30, 2011

I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... ~Matthew -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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"carrier choice" verbiage
by Ryan Goldberg Aug. 25, 2011

Aug. 25, 2011

I've got a customer moving into a building where the building owners/management is attempting to enforce carrier exclusivity; they are in bed with another carrier. I already have the customer's other two sites on-net. This would be a third, new site. My fiber is just outside of the building, and I want to be in it. The owners of the company (my customer) have a pretty strong hand, and are looking for verbiage to add to the lease basically stating they can use whatever carrier they want. Does anyone have something like this handy? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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cogent
by Ryan Goldberg Aug. 24, 2011

Aug. 24, 2011

I'm guessing someone else here is using Cogent - from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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possibly too OT - MQT transport
by Ryan Goldberg Aug. 23, 2011

Aug. 23, 2011

I'm looking for transport Marquette MI <-> 511. We have an office there, growing. 100ish Mbps for now would be dandy. Ideally, I could do last mile myself with microwave or aerial fiber. Thanks, and if too OT, tell me to shut up! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Agreement
by Jay Hanke Aug. 12, 2011

Aug. 12, 2011

MICE has executed the agreement with Akamai for the dedicated cluster peered directly to MICE. Akamai will have a 10GE connection to the main switch. A special thanks to US Internet for providing bandwidth to feed the cluster and to FWR for working with us on the space and power. We will need some help with the installation when the equipment arrives. We expect to be operational around September 1st! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IPv6 Issue
by Jay Hanke Aug. 11, 2011

Aug. 11, 2011

It looks like we had an issue with IPv6 sessions after the cut this morning. We think the issue is resolved. If you are having trouble passing IPv6 across the fabric let me know. Thanks, jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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