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Please welcome G-Core Labs S.A. to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 7, 2023

Sept. 7, 2023

Name: G-Core Labs S.A. Switch: MICE Core Port: E 4/7 ASN: 199524 IPv4: 206.108.255.191/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:3:0B64::1/64 Peering Contact: noc(a)gcore.lu Route Servers: YES BFD: No Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Global Net (AS395466) - Circuit Restored
by Global Net NOC Aug. 30, 2023

Aug. 30, 2023

MICEMN Members - Our carrier has resolved their power issue to restore our circuit and we have connectivity into Minneapolis again. I will begin to restore BGP sessions with our peers this morning. GLOBAL NET AS 395466 IPv4 206.108.255.97 IPv6 2001:504:27:0:6:8ca:0:1 Thanks, Scott Reed Global Net NOC noc(a)theglobal.net Global Net Peering Peering peering(a)theglobal.net

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Global Net (AS395466) - Carrier Outage / Carrier Maintenance
by Global Net NOC Aug. 28, 2023

Aug. 28, 2023

MICEMN Members - Our carrier experienced a DC power plant failure on Saturday, August 26th @ 1356 MDT at which time our circuit between Bozeman, MT and Minneapolis, MN went down. This circuit was restored this morning at 0301 MDT, but via a temporary power supply. We are being told that the carrier will be replacing the failed DC power plant tomorrow around noon MDT with an expected impact of 90 minutes to our circuit. Our port to the MICE is currently down but I have all BGP sessions disabled for manual and graceful restart once service is fully restored. I would like to wait until the temporary power supply is replaced before bringing sessions back up. GLOBAL NET AS 395466 IPv4 206.108.255.97 IPv6 2001:504:27:0:6:8ca:0:1 Thanks, Scott Reed Global Net NOC noc(a)theglobal.net<mailto:noc@theglobal.net> Global Net Peering Peering peering(a)theglobal.net<mailto:peering@theglobal.net>

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Network Nerd Thoughts?
by Michael Horwath Aug. 21, 2023

Aug. 21, 2023

ObOnTopic: Anyone have a contact there to see if they are willing to join MICE? ObOffTopic: everything else https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gateway-fiber-bringing-100-fiber-o… I moved into CR July 2020 and .. connectivity options are not really options. Greenbutthole (you know, Centurylink, Lumen, some name that starts with Q) loves to say high speed, every address in a 4 block area around me is only capable of 10Mbps down. Comcast? I mean, it works, for a small value of works. Anyone dealt with these folks in the past in other areas? Will they come through? Are there any gotchas? I wish we had more choice. I mean, we had over 200 choices back in the late 90s and early-mid 2000s but they are all gone now. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

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OT: Blast from the past!
by Jay Hanke Aug. 14, 2023

Aug. 14, 2023

[image: 20180410_090819.jpg] -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Ridgeview Traffic
by Jay Hanke Aug. 7, 2023

Aug. 7, 2023

Looks like a successful weekend at the new Ridgeview. This is the uplink traffic measured at the 511 end. [image: image.png]

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Give Aways
by Justin Krejci Aug. 4, 2023

Aug. 4, 2023

I have a few items to give away: first responding, first served. Must either pick up in Minnetonka, MN or possibly nearby area. 4x Fiber SMF duplex jumpers * SC to LC blue connectors (not green APC) * 5m fiber jumper with thicker outdoor jacket * The last 12 inches or so at each end are the standard yellow jacket. * Condition: New/unused 8x (could be 9 or 10) standard RJ45 patch panels * 48 ports * 2RU height * 19" width post * Model: unknown * Includes cable management clips that fasten onto the front side * Wire bars on the rear side for tying rear side cables * Condition: New/unused 2x 40G QSFPs * Model: Robofiber QSFP-4010-PLR4-A * Condition: Light or no use 2x 40G QSFPs * Model: Robofiber QSFP-4010-LR4-A * Condition: Light or no use 6x 40G QSFP AOCs * 1m length * Model: Robofiber QSFP-40G-01AOC-A * Condition: Light use, no damage, no visible wear and tear If anyone wants pictures of any of these let me know and I can send you some. -Justin

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MICE Ridgeview Traffic
by Jay Hanke Aug. 3, 2023

Aug. 3, 2023

Running about 18G of traffic on the new MICE Ridgeview switch! Jay

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Fiber cut?
by Frank Bulk July 25, 2023

July 25, 2023

Did anyone notice a fiber cut on Zayo's network between Le Mars and Sioux City around 2:45 pm? Our staff saw some damage south to their fiber of NIPCO, but it's possible that Zayo abandoned that stretch of fiber due to an earlier Hwy 75 road project. Regards, Frank

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Re: FW: [EXTERNAL] - [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Participants List
by Richard Laager June 28, 2023

June 28, 2023

It turns out that I had the route server links wrong. There is a database ID that gets put into the BIRD protocol. I thought it was the customer (participant) ID. But it turns out it is the VLAN Interface ID. I corrected this, and now the links work correctly. On 2023-06-28 06:26, Miles McCredie wrote: > > FWIW, the looking glass links generate the following message > -- Richard

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MICE Participants List
by Richard Laager June 28, 2023

June 28, 2023

The MICE participants list is now built from IXP Manager: https://micemn.net/participants.html If there is something wrong about your entry, please let me or Jeremy know. See below about port discrepancies, first. I want to specifically thank Dustin Frandle of South Front Networks. He started this effort with JavaScript code to convert a standard IX-F JSON export into a participants table. While I ended up going a different direction (for reasons discussed below), he got the ball rolling. Jeremy and I wanted to retain the contact addresses, which IXP Manager only outputs in the IX-F export if you are logged in. (And, despite my request, they remain firm in that position and refuse to allow customization.) Additionally, I wanted to retain the ports, since our current process has Cologix using the website as the LOA/CFA. (We may want to move to a more standard approach on that, but I didn't want to put that change into the critical path of getting the participants list automated.) Unfortunately, despite a previous request and my re-request for it, the IXP Manager maintainer has taken a firm position that the IX-F JSON export should not be customizable. So I cannot easily tweak the template to output emails when unauthenticated or add additional information for ports. IXP Manager does support the idea of a custom member export, and INEX (the exchange primarily behind IXP Manager development) does use that for a custom JSON output. However, that requires building the desired output from scratch. I figured if I was going to do that, I might as well just output HTML directly. That way, I only have one thing in one language (PHP) to worry about, rather than two things (PHP + JavaScript). Granted, there are some cons too. I'm not 100% happy about any of this. But, ultimately I had to make some decision to get it done, and that's where I landed. I did the best I could with the responsive design. There are a couple of pre-existing bugs on edge cases (e.g. when your size falls at 991.xx so it's not <= 991 but also not >= 992, which is maybe only possible on HiDPI displays) that affect the whole site. This page in particular is not ideal on mobile, but I did what I could. If you've got better ideas, please let me know. ---- There are a couple port discrepancies that I've asked Jeremy to review: 702 Communications * Bluepeak Broadband Visions * G-Core Labs * HBC * LTD Broadband Omnitel * Paul Bunyan South Front Truestream * US Internet * I'm pretty sure these were wrong/outdated on the old list and correct in IXP Manager / on the new list. -- Richard

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WiscNet router maintenance Thursday, June 29, 4pm
by Chris Wopat June 27, 2023

June 27, 2023

WiscNet will be replacing a router this coming Thursday at 4pm local time. Our MICE connection will be down during this transition. Expect it down for 15mins or so, maintenance should be complete by 7pm. Cheers, -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat(a)wiscnet.net 608-210-3965

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Three BGP peers
by Frank Bulk June 24, 2023

June 24, 2023

Anyone else seeing both Yahoo peers and one Google peer down since early am? I didn't see any log messages about exceeding prefix counts or the like. Frank SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#sh ip bgp sum | ex Estab BGP summary information for VRF default Router identifier 207.32.15.21, local AS number 18883 Neighbor Status Codes: m - Under maintenance Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent InQ OutQ Up/Down State PfxRcd PfxAcc 206.108.255.58 4 10310 2035987 4886675 0 0 12:23:38 Active 206.108.255.59 4 10310 2029469 4886360 0 0 12:23:41 Active 206.108.255.167 4 15169 2050148 4888984 0 0 12:23:40 Active SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#sh ipv6 bgp sum | ex Estab BGP summary information for VRF default Router identifier 207.32.15.21, local AS number 18883 Neighbor Status Codes: m - Under maintenance Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent InQ OutQ Up/Down State PfxRcd PfxAcc 2001:504:27::2846:0:1 4 10310 2209610 1893247 0 0 12:23:40 Active 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 4 10310 2202613 1892818 0 0 12:23:47 Active 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 4 15169 2043589 1894022 0 0 12:23:48 Active SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#

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Global Net (AS395466) - Circuit Down
by Global Net NOC June 24, 2023

June 24, 2023

MICEMN Members - Our circuit to Cologix in Minneapolis is hard down due to a bridge collapse, train derailment and subsequent fiber cut in Columbus, MT. Our BGP sessions remain down. GLOBAL NET AS 395466 IPV4 206.108.255.97 IPV6 2001:504:27:0:6:8ca:0:1 Thanks, Global Net NOC noc(a)theglobal.net Global Net Peering peering(a)theglobal.net

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Route Server 1 - BFD not working
by Jonathan Stewart June 23, 2023

June 23, 2023

Hi MICE, We are AS18451. On our BGP session to Route Server 1 (206.108.225.1 & 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1) i have lost the BFD session. My Juniper router shows the state as "Down". Is this intentional? An accident of the upgrades? Is my configuration wrong? Anyone else noticing this? My configuration is an interval of 1000 ms, multiplier 3. RS 2 is configured the same and BFD is up. Thanks, Jonathan -- Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA

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Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire
by Justin Krejci June 16, 2023

June 16, 2023

I stumbled across this thread again while looking for something else and thought I'd add a small update that we did get our Qwilt server deployed on-net for us a while back and it did indeed serve a relatively large burst of traffic volume during the live streaming episodes of Thursday Night Football. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)USINTERNET.COM> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 1:08 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I believe it is just simpler for everyone involved when you are an NCTC member but I don't think it is a requirement necessarily. As Frank suggests, if you're interested in their services you should just reach out to them directly and they can tell you what they can and will do for you given your network and usage numbers. In my experience so far Qwilt are decent folks: I am still working through their process to get a deployment for our network and they have been competent and reasonable to work with so far. To contrast the email subject, because they are in the open caching market, they do not carry only Amazon content. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:09 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I don’t know if it’s exclusive to the NCTC or not – you could reach out to Qwilt and just ask them what options they have for you. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ryan Malek Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) ________________________________ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nct…<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=164503…> There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET><mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=164503…> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=164503…> ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=164503…> Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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RPKI ROAs
by Richard Laager June 14, 2023

June 14, 2023

In the ARIN web UI, it looks like a ROA can have multiple prefixes. For an end network such as myself (Wiktel hat on), what is the best practice... one ROA per prefix, or list multiple prefixes in the same ROA? With my MICE hat on, should MICE publish a ROA for the peering network space? The theoretical advantage would be some amount of hijacking protection. Though since it's not supposed to be announced, it probably doesn't matter much either way? As far as I can see, there's no explicit way to say "do not announce" in a ROA. But listing something with an origin AS of "0" seems to be a thing that is done for at least one deliberately invalid ROA (CloudFlare's 103.21.244.0/23). So, if I were to create a ROA for MICE, would that be an Origin AS of 53679 or 0? -- Richard

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OT: MIDCO Noc #
by Jay Hanke June 12, 2023

June 12, 2023

Does anyone have the 24x7 Midco NOC number? Jay

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Call for Help: Web Design
by Richard Laager June 2, 2023

June 2, 2023

Anyone know a web developer who could do some/all of the following? 1. The website uses Bootstrap 3.0.3, which is using jQuery 1.10.2. Update to modern versions of that, fixing what breaks. 2. At medium screen widths, the navigation comes off the navigation area and shows further down on the page. Fix that. 3. At small screen widths (including but not limited to mobile), the hamburger menu doesn't work quite right. The links show up, but they are mixed in with the page text. Fix that. The code is on GitHub here: https://github.com/micemn/mice-website -- Richard

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MICE RS1 Route Server Cleanup
by Jay Hanke May 31, 2023

May 31, 2023

We are going through a process to clean up the configurations on the new RS1 server located in 511. The config is now automated and IRR/RPKI filtering is in place. We're currently working on the IPv4 sessions. There are several networks that have Route Server sessions that are currently not up. AS13737 - INCX Global, LLC AS22768 - Synergy Fiber AS22822 - Limelight Networks Global AS26794 - Dakota Carrier Network (206.108.255.60 Route Limit Exceeded) AS29762 - Emergent Networks AS30110 - Advanced Communications Technology (Route Limit Exceeded) AS31939 - GigaMonster AS32029 - Lakana AS32097 - Wholesale Internet, Inc. AS32867 - Long Lines Communications AS397324 - Celerity Networks Max Prefixes (used for Route Limit) are pulled from Peeringdb.com. Networks can check their status on the new looking glass (Thanks Richard!): https://ixpmgr.micemn.net/lg/rs1-ipv4 If your network is no longer utilizing the route servers please email peering(a)micemn.net so we can update your configuration. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html http://peeringsummit.com <--- Des Moines July 17-18, 2023

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Route Server Session Cleanup
by Jay Hanke May 28, 2023

May 28, 2023

Following the migration to the route server last week we have a number of members with down or misconfigured BGP sessions. We have reached out to each member via email and will be disabling the route server sessions to RS1 of the following members on Thursday June 1st, 2023 if we do not get a response or resolution. AS13737 - INCX Global, LLC AS29762 - Emergent Networks AS30110 - Advanced Communications Technology AS31939 - GigaMonster AS32029 - Lakana, a division of Nexstar Broadcasting -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html http://peeringsummit.com <--- Des Moines July 17-18, 2023

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Limelight Networks Removed from MICE Route Server Config
by Jay Hanke May 25, 2023

May 25, 2023

Limelight Networks is no longer utilizing the MICE route servers. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html http://peeringsummit.com <--- Des Moines July 17-18, 2023

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Land O Lakes left MICE
by Jay Hanke May 24, 2023

May 24, 2023

Land O Lakes has disconnected from MICE. IXP Manager has been updated. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html http://peeringsummit.com <--- Des Moines July 17-18, 2023

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Midwest Peering Summit Info July 17-18th, 2023 Des Moines
by Jay Hanke May 1, 2023

May 1, 2023

We're again doing the MICE summer outreach at the Midwest Peering Summit with several other adjacent Internet Exchanges. http://peeringsummit.com Registration for the two day meeting is $25 and includes lunch on the second day. We're likely going to fill the capacity of the venue well in advance of the event. We are looking for speakers/panelists as well. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Re: MICE Website
by Richard Laager April 20, 2023

April 20, 2023

I see the MICE website is down. That is NOT from me. I’ll do something about that later today. -- Richard

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Maintenance
by Richard Laager April 19, 2023

April 19, 2023

I am at 511 pulling the second server and upgrading the firewall. No expected impact to traffic. -- Richard

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MICE User Group 43 - Meeting Reminder
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net April 15, 2023

April 15, 2023

As a reminder: MICE’s user group meeting #43 will be next Wednesday April 19 at 3:00pm CDT. The meeting is being hosted by USI at their Ridgeview data center: 12450 Wayzata Blvd, Minnetonka MN For those dialing in remotely the bridge will be: 1-952-562-5400 - passcode 6423 (mice) USI offices are on the third floor in suite #315, their conference room is #301 next to the south stairwell. There is free public parking all around the building, with free overflow parking across the street to the north of the building. You can get up to the third floor from either the south or north entrances, the elevator is on the north side of the building. Public restrooms are on the second and third floors in the main hallways. If anyone wants a tour of the data center USI will be giving tours on demand starting at 2pm starting in the conference room, and they will likely be able to fit in a tour after our meeting too while everyone is debating supper plans. We’ve made progress on a number of items talked about last meeting but don’t have any new agenda items at this time. Thanks everyone, Anthony

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Arvig sales contact
by nanog＠jima.us April 13, 2023

April 13, 2023

As Reid's inquiry today reminded me, does anyone have a sales point of contact with Arvig? My two previous attempts to engage them fizzled, and I'm genuinely curious what it would take to bridge the ~200-foot gap between their existing fiber footprint and my property. Any insights appreciated. Thank you, and sorry for the noise! - Jima

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H5 St Paul
by Reid Fishler April 12, 2023

April 12, 2023

Does anyone have fiber near or in this facility? I know Arvig does, but anyone else? Reid -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178

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UG42 Minutes
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net March 1, 2023

March 1, 2023

MICE UG42 meeting notes and attendance log are attached for your reading pleasure. Cheers, Anthony MICE Treasurer/Secretary

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OT: Transit BW % Spend
by Jay Hanke Feb. 17, 2023

Feb. 17, 2023

I'm working on an article for my substack comparing peering with transit costs. I'm looking to compare the ratio of "Internet" Spend vs total revenue. I'm going to compare public peering networks and non-public peering networks. -ASN -# of Internet subscribers -% of sales spent on Peering and Transit -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Charter Outage in WI?
by Joe Unger Feb. 4, 2023

Feb. 4, 2023

Anyone have any info about a statewide Charter outage in WI? Started around 1045am today and still going strong. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Unger 612.709.8699 joe(a)vaultas.com Vaultas | *Connecting You To The Ecosystem* | vaultas.com vCIO | Colo | Cloud | Connectivity | Communications | Security | Energy Conservation <https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-unger-mn/> <https://twitter.com/VAULTAS> <https://www.facebook.com/Vaultas>

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fremont ne to belle plain mn
by James Urwiller Feb. 2, 2023

Feb. 2, 2023

Greetings all! We noticed all our sessions with our peers at mice drop at least twice yesterday, one shortly after noon CST, and another around 17:30 CST. Anyone else? We are one of the few left on the belle plain remote, and take the zayo fiber route up. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com

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Zayo maintenance
by Justin Huffman Jan. 28, 2023

Jan. 28, 2023

Just curious, anyone else affected by a maintenance that Zayo decides to do starting at 5 pm tonight? Justin Long Lines Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

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Any recent MICE network events?
by Frank Bulk Jan. 25, 2023

Jan. 25, 2023

We saw few peers briefly bounce Monday at 1:40 pm (U.S. Central): AS 10310 (Yahoo): 206.108.255.58, 206.108.255.59, 2001:504:27::2846:0:1, 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 AS 15169 (Google): 206.108.255.167, 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 And then on Tuesday at 11:44 am to about 10 minutes: AS 10310 (Yahoo): 206.108.255.58, 206.108.255.59, 2001:504:27::2846:0:1, 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 AS 15169 (Google): 206.108.255.167, 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 Did anyone else see this? Do they share some transport back to Chicago or something? Frank

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PeeringDB Carrier Object Update
by Jay Hanke Jan. 25, 2023

Jan. 25, 2023

There was a pretty big upgrade to PeeringDB this morning that allows networks to load locations where they can sell transport services. This is what $DAYJOB record looks like: https://www.peeringdb.com/carrier/6 You submit a request that needs to be approved by the facility owner before it goes live. I'd recommend if you sell transport services into buildings with Internet Exchanges to add your records. It will make it a lot easier for networks to find transport into MICE (or other) IXes. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Google Emergency Maintenance Notification PCR/648233 (MICE)
by Jay Hanke Jan. 6, 2023

Jan. 6, 2023

Details: Start Time: 2023-01-06 20:55:00 +0000 UTC End Time: 2023-01-07 05:05:00 +0000 UTC Duration: 8h10m0s Google ASN:15169Peer ASN:53679 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:2Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:2Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.167Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.1 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.167Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.2 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:1Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:1Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.141Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.1 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.141Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.2 Google systems will automatically re-route the traffic away from the peering link(s) under maintenance. Depending on the nature of the work, your BGP session with Google may stay up through the maintenance window. Traffic may shift to alternate sessions with Google and/or your upstream provider(s). Questions about this event can be sent to noc(a)google.com.

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MICE UG42 Reminder
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net Jan. 4, 2023

Jan. 4, 2023

I’m sure everyone saw David Farmer’s meeting invite, attached is the agenda. Let me know if you have any questions, Anthony

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MICE UG 42 Meeting Information
by David Farmer Jan. 1, 2023

Jan. 1, 2023

MICE UG 42 will be held on January 10th, 3:00 PM, at the University’s Information Technology Building, 2218 University Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414, Room 185. It is across University Ave SE from Huntington Bank Stadium (Formerly TCF Bank Stadium). See the link to the Campus Map below. This room has a video room system, and remote access will be available via Zoom video or phone audio, see Zoom details below. Please enter the building through the middle of three doors on the Ontario St SE side of the building. It will be open after 2:30 and will have a sign on it. If not, please knock hard, or call my cell phone (612-812-9952). This door is outside the meeting room, preventing everyone from traipsing through the building. The Stadium Village Green Line Light Rail Station is less than a block east of the building, kitty-corner at the intersection of University Ave SE and Huron Blvd SE. See the link below for the station's info page. Limited Street Parking is available on Ontario St SE and Beacon St SE. Otherwise, public parking is available in the Oak St and University Ave Ramps, each a little over two blocks away. Also, the Maroon lot is a little further on the Stadium's north side. See the link below for more parking details. DO NOT park in University Parking Lot 70 on the north of the building, by the front door, between University Ave SE and the building, or Parking Lot 71 near the loading dock to the east of the building, they are contract parking only, and you be ticketed. Also, DO NOT park in the private parking lot to the south of the building; you will likely be tagged, booted, and towed from that parking lot. https://campusmaps.umn.edu/information-technology https://www.metrotransit.org/stadium-village-station https://pts.umn.edu/Park/Basic-Parking-Information/Parking-Facilities ---------- David E Farmer III is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: MICE UG 42 Time: Jan 10, 2023 03:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/92302900851?pwd=azZqR08xMzZhUDVzY3BiVmFNT3Y4QT09 Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: JacR0t One tap mobile +16513728299,,92302900851#,,,,*876480# US (Minnesota) +13017158592,,92302900851#,,,,*876480# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 651 372 8299 US (Minnesota) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: 876480 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/a2FCO8ubU Join by SIP 92302900851(a)zoomcrc.com Join by H.323 162.255.37.11 (US West) 162.255.36.11 (US East) 221.122.88.195 (China) 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai) 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad) 213.19.144.110 (Amsterdam Netherlands) 213.244.140.110 (Germany) 103.122.166.55 (Australia Sydney) 103.122.167.55 (Australia Melbourne) 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR) 149.137.40.110 (Singapore) 64.211.144.160 (Brazil) 69.174.57.160 (Canada Toronto) 65.39.152.160 (Canada Vancouver) 207.226.132.110 (Japan Tokyo) 149.137.24.110 (Japan Osaka) Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: 876480 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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Please welcome August Internet Limited to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 22, 2022

Dec. 22, 2022

Name: August Internet Limited Switch: NOCIX Port: E 5/2 ASN: 50058 IPv4: 206.108.255.203/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:C38A::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)august.tw Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome KC Fiber to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 22, 2022

Dec. 22, 2022

Name: KC Fiber Switch: NOCIX Port: Ethernet 5/3 ASN: 11708 IPv4: This is a port/switch move, all IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)wholesaleinternet.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Wholesale Internet to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 21, 2022

Dec. 21, 2022

Name: Wholesale Internet Switch: NOCIX Port: Ethernet 5/1 ASN: 32097 IPv4: This is a port move, all IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)wholesaleinternet.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Eastern Iowa Data Group to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 18, 2022

Dec. 18, 2022

Name: Eastern Iowa Data Group Switch: Southfront Albert Lea Port: Ethernet 8/2 ASN: 63394 IPv4: This is a port addition to 3x10G. All IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: EIDG(a)Vantagepnt.com Route Servers: No BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome OmniTel Communications to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 18, 2022

Dec. 18, 2022

Name: OnmiTel Communications Switch: Southfront Albert Lea Port: Ethernet 10/1 ASN: 62886 IPv4: This is a port upgrade to 100G. All IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: it(a)omnitel.biz Route Servers: Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome UnitedHealth Group to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 12, 2022

Dec. 12, 2022

Name: UnitedHealth Group Switch: MICE Main Ports: 3/28/1 & 6/24/1 (200G Po 12) ASN: 10879 IPv4: 206.108.255.198/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2A7F::1/64 Peering Contact: inet_ops(a)uhc.com Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Google Peering
by Tom Krenn Nov. 25, 2022

Nov. 25, 2022

I just wanted to give a heads up to anyone else who might also have been waiting. I had a peering session with Google approved via their ISP portal yesterday. So after a couple years it looks like they have their new system in place and appear to be accepting requests again. Good luck! Tom Krenn Network Architect Enterprise Architecture - Information Technology Office: 612-596-8994 tom.krenn(a)hennepin.us<mailto:tom.krenn@hennepin.us> | hennepin.us<https://hennepin.us/> Hennepin County Government Center 300 South 6th Street, A-190 Minneapolis, MN, 55487 [Hennepin County logo] Connect: Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/hennepin> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/Hennepin> | YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/user/HennepinMN> | LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/company/hennepin-county> | Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/hennepincounty> Disclaimer: If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please immediately notify the sender of the transmission error and then promptly permanently delete this message from your computer system.

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Please welcome Truestream to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Nov. 21, 2022

Nov. 21, 2022

Name: Truestream Switch: MICE Core Port: E 5/2 ASN: 398143 IPv4: 206.108.255.188/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:133F::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)truestreamfiber.com Route Servers: No BFD: No Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Anyone lose peering with CloudFlare this morning at 4:13 am?
by Frank Bulk Nov. 14, 2022

Nov. 14, 2022

Both IPv4 and IPv6. I didn't see any exceeding of prefix limits. Frank Oct 12 04:13:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.45 (AS13335.micemn.net) (AS 13335 CLOUDFLARENET, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Oct 12 04:13:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::3417:0:1 (AS13335.micemn.net) (AS 13335 CLOUDFLARENET, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle

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Proposal: MICE Static MAC address Only
by Jay Hanke Nov. 3, 2022

Nov. 3, 2022

I propose we change the MICE required port security settings to be hard filtered for a single static mac address per port. Over the years, we've had several incidents where floods have occurred prior to port being error-disabled during a looping event. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE - IXP Manager - Change Control Access
by Justin Krejci Oct. 31, 2022

Oct. 31, 2022

Spinning off a new thread from the static/mac-limit/port-security conversation. The IXP Manager can generate an instruction command and makes it available to the Arista(s). The switch(es) could pull the config using a script that further sanitizes/validates the config its pulling before applying. This would prevent IXP Manager from having its own direct access to the switch. This could also be the case for pulling data from the switch(es) as well. Patterned after a TR-069 or similar concept, the switch could phone home to the IXP manager (once a minute cronjob for example) and see if there is anything the IXP manager wants done. A simple text based file (json, etc) is generated by the IXP manager and the Arista would then just query this file and parse out instructions and perform actions as instructed or ignore them if malformed or otherwise not allowed. Obviously this is would be only for Arista switch(es) managed by MICE. I don't have any IXP Manager experience beyond simple user but I know Arista can do this fairly easily. It could also just be a RESTful API even. Maybe something like this already exists I have no idea but I would highlight the two things this concept does 1: Allows IXP manager to affect change without direct access to the switch(es) 2: Allows the Arista switch(es) to ultimately decide to accept or ignore instructions to make config changes, send info, perform other actions like bounce my member port, apply TCP/179 filtering to my port, show me some log data, etc. This concept could also apply to the route servers too since they also run a *nix OS like Arista. This would not be a simple/quick idea but I feel would check various boxes for people: air gap, allows automation/self-service, and if automation fails it results in a fallback to manual only changes like we are doing today anyways, etc. Since I know MICE does have money, it could be dev work hired out to someone or a team to produce and then MICE retains rights to the resultant code. We have enough people across our membership that I am sure we could validate the code is sound and also perform bugfixes as needed going forward, perhaps even make it public, GPL style. Maybe IXP Manager already has some of this functionality? Last second additional thought, simple instructions (eg add a second MAC address, show me log data for my port) get automatically approved. Bigger changes (remove/change my MAC address, some other action) need to get some sort of manual approval by the tech team so it can be scrutinized first. None of this needs to be done in IXP Manager either but some other custom, purpose built web portal. Maybe I'm way overthinking this. Food for thought at any rate. -Justin

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