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TechdotMN article on MICE
by James Montz 17 Jun '11

17 Jun '11

Mike Bollinger of TechdotMN was kind enough to write an article about MICE. http://tech.mn/news/2011/06/15/midwest-internet-cooperative-exchange-mice/ I feel bad about me being presented as one of the founding leaders. I in no way made myself out to be such. --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* Senior Consultant *Mankato Networks LLC* <http://www.mankatonetworks.net/>320 East Liberty Street <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+East+Liberty+Street%2CMankato%2CMN+56001&…>Mankato, MN 56001 *Phone:* *(320)-496-6689* *Email: jamesmontz(a)mankatonetworks.net* *Web: http://www.mankatonetworks.net Skype: james.montz* * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmontz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Akamai Traffic on MICE
by David Farmer 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

The 10G Akamai stack at the University is having an affect. The University turned up routing from the GigaPOP to MICE on its 10G link Tuesday around 8pm. The new paths were also announced to the Akamai route collector around that time too. Akamai started using these new paths around 1:30 in the afternoon on Wednesday. The University's 10G link peaked a little over 1G around 9:30pm last night. The bottleneck is the 1G link between the CNS 10G switch and the 4500. It was saturated from about 6:30pm to 9:30pm at about 950Mbps. Some of us are organizing to rectify the situation ASAP. There are some workarounds that could help in the very short-term, yet this morning, and we are looking to get the new Juniper switches with 10G up-links installed ASAP However, the earliest that can happen it this afternoon, as the switches are down in Mankato with Jay. There is a plan to get them up to 511 by mid-afternoon. Also I'll be watching the links and can modify our announcement to the Akamai route collector if necessary. Things are going to be fluid today. I'll just say that this is the kind of problem I like to see, if you are going to have to deal with any problem. That is the problem of over succeeding. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Jumper between Junipers and Cisco 4500
by Jay Hanke 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Is there a jumper in place between the new Junipers and the 4500? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IPv6 from CDW/Berbee AS 3599
by Justin Krejci 04 Jun '11

04 Jun '11

Getting 2 less prefixes from 2607:FE10:FFFF::2 than from 2607:FE10:FFFF::1 for CDW/Brebee. *> 2607:FEE0::/32 2607:FE10:FFFF::26 0 3599 i *> 2607:FEE0:8000::/40 2607:FE10:FFFF::26 0 3599 ? Looks like the /40 is just a subset of the /32 prefix IPv4 prefix counts are identical on the route servers. There is no contact on the MICE Participants page for them. Anyone have an idea or a good contact for them? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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UMN IPv6 peering is up
by David Farmer 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

I just brought up our IPv6 peering with the MICE route server. I about tripled the number of IPv6 routes in the MICE route server. We are also announcing a local 6to4 relay server we run into the MICE route server. You might want to double check where you are sending 6to4 traffic, check these two routes. IPv6 2002::/16 IPv4 192.88.99.0 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE website...ipv6...READY!
by Mike Horwath 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Mr. Howard, please update the DNS records to add an AAAA record of: 2001:4980:ABBA:ABBA::170 Enginehosting is now IPv6 ready (eternally). Need to do some work internally still native frontend/backend services. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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UMN pending change post
by Mike Horwath 02 Jun '11

02 Jun '11

Minnesota Gateway personnel will be replacing an X2 10 gig transceiver, in port ten 0/11, to which the University of Minnesota/Northernlights GigaPOP is connected, tomorrow morning at approximately 8 am. Frank -- Frank DiGravina University of Minnesota Networking and Telecommunications Network Operations Phone: 612 626-9074 Cell: 612 386-0449 E-mail: digravin(a)umn.edu Helpline: 612-301-HELP (and no, this isn't for announce) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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PeeringDB Updates
by Jeremy Lumby 02 Jun '11

02 Jun '11

When updating my PeeringDB profile, I noticed that the MICE exchange point is not listed as being in the Minnesota Gateway facility. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MN/WI NANOG Meet up
by Jay Hanke 31 May '11

31 May '11

The Upper MIdwest Internet guys are meeting up at NANOG in Denver on Tuesday, June 14th. If you're going to be at NANOG and are interested let me know! jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Juniper Training Location Info
by Jay Hanke 26 May '11

26 May '11

We are going to be in the FWR conference room at the 511 building for the Juniper switch training on Thursday June 2nd at 2 PM. We're expecting the training to go about 2 hours. Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: New Member's Configured on BIRD
by David Farmer III 25 May '11

25 May '11

In a way both are correct. The Northern Lights Gigapop (AS57) is the ISP transit provider AS operated by the University and is the AS peering at MICE. Northern Lights Gigapop is simply a DBA of the University. AS217 is the source AS for traffic from the University's campuses. AS1998 is the source AS for the State of MN and MNSCU's campuses. There are a number of other ASes that AS57 is transiting to MICE as well. I can create a new AS-set in the RADb containing the ASes that AS57 is transiting to MICE, if folks are interested let me know. Is anyone connected to MICE generating BGP or traffic filters from the RADb? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 14:40 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Member's Configured on BIRD > Then fix0r! > > You has the power! Farmer, which one is correct? Northern Lights Gigapop or UMN? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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New Member's Configured on BIRD
by James Montz 25 May '11

25 May '11

Added IPv4 and IPv6 Configuration for City of Windomw (ASN: 46692). Welcome! Also noticed that IPv6 config for UMN (ASN: 57) was not in, so added that as well. Maybe its a matter of semantics, but the website lists Northern Lights GigaPoP as ASN: 57, NOT UMN. --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* Senior Consultant *Mankato Networks LLC* <http://www.mankatonetworks.net/>320 East Liberty Street <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+East+Liberty+Street%2CMankato%2CMN+56001&…>Mankato, MN 56001 *Phone:* *(320)-496-6689* *Email: jamesmontz(a)mankatonetworks.net* *Web: http://www.mankatonetworks.net Skype: james.montz* * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmontz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Cacti Graph using SNMPv1?
by Justin Krejci 25 May '11

25 May '11

'micemn-gateway-2.micemn.net - Traffic - Gi0/2' in Cacti is exhibiting signs of using SNMPv1 counters (frequent gaps at higher bandwidth usage) Is this a known issue? If not I presume someone at iphouse can fix this easily. The "Fix64bit" plugin for Cacti is great for correcting this condition on the fly if my assumption on the problem is correct. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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NANOG
by Jay Hanke 25 May '11

25 May '11

Is anyone going to NANOG in Denver? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Traffic between 10Gig & 1Gig Switches
by Steve Howard 19 May '11

19 May '11

The traffic to/from the U shot up today. I'm guessing that is CDN related? The link between the CNS switch and the MICE switch shot up to ~850Mbps today. Too bad that is only a single gig connection! It is great to have the traffic on the exchange, but we should probably deal with this nearly saturated link fast. Here are a few possible solutions: 1) Add another Gig connection. We'd probably need to pay FWR for a cross-connect (CNS is paying for the first one) with this option; 2) Use one of the new Juniper switches with a 10Gig interface and connect that to a 10Gig interface on the existing MICE 10Gig switch, then move some of the 1Gig members over to those ports. This would require purchase of 10Gig optics for the Juniper and the existing 10Gig MICE switch; 3) Move some of the higher bandwidth MICE members to the 1Gig ports on the 10Gig switch. Would this increase the FWR cross-connect charges for those members if they are going from copper to fiber? 4) Encourage MICE members on the 1Gig switch to upgrade to a 10Gig connection; 5) Ask the U to not advertise some of the members on the 1Gig switch to CDNs (if that is the cause of the traffic load). This is a bummer if you are one of the networks that gets left out. I really don't like this option -- we are finally getting real traffic on the exchange and then we'd be cutting back. What does everybody think? Any other suggestions? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Traffic
by Jay Hanke 19 May '11

19 May '11

We have seen a dramatic growth in traffic on the exchange. The GE link between the CNS remote switch and the Main switch is running about ~950 Mb/s. We're going to need to make some upgrades shortly to avoid degrading services. Perhaps more quickly than originally planned. We may need some volunteers and stuff depending on the course of action. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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WOW!!!
by David Farmer 18 May '11

18 May '11

Between 1:30 and 2:00 today Akamai started sending traffic to someone (or multiple someones) on MICE from our 10G connected stack of servers to the tune of about 800Mbps or more, and its still going. How full are the links between the switches? :) let me know if I need to do something on my side. http://perfsonar.northernlights.gigapop.net/gui/cacti/graph.php?action=view… FYI, those graphs are in MBytes/sec multiply by 8 for Mbps. COOL!!! -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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UMN connected?
by Mike Horwath 18 May '11

18 May '11

Say it isn't so! Mr. Farmer, care to start pushing some routes out to MICE? ASN_57 BGP master up May13 Established ... Routes: 0 imported, 475 exported, 0 preferred Excited to see things change. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Presentation at Vaultas?
by Steve Howard 17 May '11

17 May '11

Hello, I had an e-mail forwarded my way that indicates that MICE will be doing a presentation at John Unger's new data center in Alexandria next week. I'm curious, who is doing the presentation? What are the options to connect to MICE from Alexandria? Also, I was at an IPv6 presentation last week at the Tristate Operators Conference. The speaker asked about how many people were using IPv6. We were the only company that raised our hands. Sad. During the question/answer period I mentioned MICE and that you could get free IPv6 transit via Hurricane Electric if you are connected to MICE. Nobody indicated any interest. More sadness. At least they've now heard about MICE. Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Recruitment / Advertising to MICE
by Justin Krejci 17 May '11

17 May '11

Hello List, US Internet is in the process of getting connected to the network. In fact I plan to pop down to FWR this evening still and plug in the cross connect on my way home. In any case I only became aware of MICE thru unrelated discussions with WIN who mentioned it to me and passed me Jay's contact info which brings me to the subject at hand, is there any effort or interest in making a more official recruitment effort to get networks and providers to join up? I realize MICE is still pretty new and fresh but it strikes me it is only as useful as the networks that are participating. I think it would be great if we got Comcast and Qwest (CenturyLink, whatever) in particular to join up as they have big local networks in town. I also scanned some of the archives and was interested in the whole CDN participation idea. Any news on that at all with Akamai or others for that matter? Also are there any plans on the table for future UG meetings for MICE? -Justin Krejci ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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2011 Q2 Steering Committee Election Results
by Jay Hanke 16 May '11

16 May '11

Please congratulate Reid Fishler of Hurricane Electric as the new MICE Steering Committee Member! Next election is Fall-ish 2011. Congrats and welcome aboard! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Management IP address for new Juniper Switches?
by James Montz 16 May '11

16 May '11

Mike et. al. @ IPHouse; As you were gracious enough to provide routable IP's (216.250.183.9/.10) to manage the existing MICE switches, If available, can we get an additional IP allocated for the new Juniper Swtich? --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* Senior Consultant *Mankato Networks LLC* <http://www.mankatonetworks.net/>320 East Liberty Street <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+East+Liberty+Street%2CMankato%2CMN+56001&…>Mankato, MN 56001 *Phone:* *(320)-496-6689* *Email: jamesmontz(a)mankatonetworks.net* *Web: http://www.mankatonetworks.net Skype: james.montz* * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmontz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Looking Glass / Route Server for MICE
by Justin Krejci 13 May '11

13 May '11

As I understand it there is currently no public looking glass or route server for MICE users or the public in general. Any interest in setting something up? I could donate a server or some time to the cause. They are quite useful in troubleshooting routing issues or network changes. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Next MICE UG
by Jay Hanke 13 May '11

13 May '11

The time has come to begin planning the next UG. I think having the speaker at the last meeting was a huge success. Does anyone have ideas for speakers or topics? I heard Root DNS talked about. I also heard MN Internet History talked about... Also, it might be worthwhile to give some short network introductions. Maybe 2 or 3 participants each meeting? I was disappointed last time with the turnout at the social. If there are things we can do to improve the participation at the social please let me know! Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Juniper EX Training/Staging
by Jay Hanke 12 May '11

12 May '11

All, Juniper will be coming to Minneapolis June 2nd at 2 PM to give technical training on the new core MICE switches. The training will be in Minneapolis. If you're interested in attending please email me so I can make sure there is enough space. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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