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MICE User Group 43 - Meeting Reminder
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net April 15, 2023

April 15, 2023

As a reminder: MICE’s user group meeting #43 will be next Wednesday April 19 at 3:00pm CDT. The meeting is being hosted by USI at their Ridgeview data center: 12450 Wayzata Blvd, Minnetonka MN For those dialing in remotely the bridge will be: 1-952-562-5400 - passcode 6423 (mice) USI offices are on the third floor in suite #315, their conference room is #301 next to the south stairwell. There is free public parking all around the building, with free overflow parking across the street to the north of the building. You can get up to the third floor from either the south or north entrances, the elevator is on the north side of the building. Public restrooms are on the second and third floors in the main hallways. If anyone wants a tour of the data center USI will be giving tours on demand starting at 2pm starting in the conference room, and they will likely be able to fit in a tour after our meeting too while everyone is debating supper plans. We’ve made progress on a number of items talked about last meeting but don’t have any new agenda items at this time. Thanks everyone, Anthony

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Arvig sales contact
by nanog＠jima.us April 13, 2023

April 13, 2023

As Reid's inquiry today reminded me, does anyone have a sales point of contact with Arvig? My two previous attempts to engage them fizzled, and I'm genuinely curious what it would take to bridge the ~200-foot gap between their existing fiber footprint and my property. Any insights appreciated. Thank you, and sorry for the noise! - Jima

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H5 St Paul
by Reid Fishler April 12, 2023

April 12, 2023

Does anyone have fiber near or in this facility? I know Arvig does, but anyone else? Reid -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178

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UG42 Minutes
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net March 1, 2023

March 1, 2023

MICE UG42 meeting notes and attendance log are attached for your reading pleasure. Cheers, Anthony MICE Treasurer/Secretary

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OT: Transit BW % Spend
by Jay Hanke Feb. 17, 2023

Feb. 17, 2023

I'm working on an article for my substack comparing peering with transit costs. I'm looking to compare the ratio of "Internet" Spend vs total revenue. I'm going to compare public peering networks and non-public peering networks. -ASN -# of Internet subscribers -% of sales spent on Peering and Transit -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Charter Outage in WI?
by Joe Unger Feb. 4, 2023

Feb. 4, 2023

Anyone have any info about a statewide Charter outage in WI? Started around 1045am today and still going strong. Thanks, Joe -- Joe Unger 612.709.8699 joe(a)vaultas.com Vaultas | *Connecting You To The Ecosystem* | vaultas.com vCIO | Colo | Cloud | Connectivity | Communications | Security | Energy Conservation <https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-unger-mn/> <https://twitter.com/VAULTAS> <https://www.facebook.com/Vaultas>

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fremont ne to belle plain mn
by James Urwiller Feb. 2, 2023

Feb. 2, 2023

Greetings all! We noticed all our sessions with our peers at mice drop at least twice yesterday, one shortly after noon CST, and another around 17:30 CST. Anyone else? We are one of the few left on the belle plain remote, and take the zayo fiber route up. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com

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Zayo maintenance
by Justin Huffman Jan. 28, 2023

Jan. 28, 2023

Just curious, anyone else affected by a maintenance that Zayo decides to do starting at 5 pm tonight? Justin Long Lines Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

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Any recent MICE network events?
by Frank Bulk Jan. 25, 2023

Jan. 25, 2023

We saw few peers briefly bounce Monday at 1:40 pm (U.S. Central): AS 10310 (Yahoo): 206.108.255.58, 206.108.255.59, 2001:504:27::2846:0:1, 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 AS 15169 (Google): 206.108.255.167, 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 And then on Tuesday at 11:44 am to about 10 minutes: AS 10310 (Yahoo): 206.108.255.58, 206.108.255.59, 2001:504:27::2846:0:1, 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 AS 15169 (Google): 206.108.255.167, 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 Did anyone else see this? Do they share some transport back to Chicago or something? Frank

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PeeringDB Carrier Object Update
by Jay Hanke Jan. 25, 2023

Jan. 25, 2023

There was a pretty big upgrade to PeeringDB this morning that allows networks to load locations where they can sell transport services. This is what $DAYJOB record looks like: https://www.peeringdb.com/carrier/6 You submit a request that needs to be approved by the facility owner before it goes live. I'd recommend if you sell transport services into buildings with Internet Exchanges to add your records. It will make it a lot easier for networks to find transport into MICE (or other) IXes. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 https://southfront.io/path.html

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Google Emergency Maintenance Notification PCR/648233 (MICE)
by Jay Hanke Jan. 6, 2023

Jan. 6, 2023

Details: Start Time: 2023-01-06 20:55:00 +0000 UTC End Time: 2023-01-07 05:05:00 +0000 UTC Duration: 8h10m0s Google ASN:15169Peer ASN:53679 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:2Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:2Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.167Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.1 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.167Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.2 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:1Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Google Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::3b41:0:1Peer Neighbor Address(es):2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.141Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.1 Google Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.141Peer Neighbor Address(es):206.108.255.2 Google systems will automatically re-route the traffic away from the peering link(s) under maintenance. Depending on the nature of the work, your BGP session with Google may stay up through the maintenance window. Traffic may shift to alternate sessions with Google and/or your upstream provider(s). Questions about this event can be sent to noc(a)google.com.

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MICE UG42 Reminder
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net Jan. 4, 2023

Jan. 4, 2023

I’m sure everyone saw David Farmer’s meeting invite, attached is the agenda. Let me know if you have any questions, Anthony

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MICE UG 42 Meeting Information
by David Farmer Jan. 1, 2023

Jan. 1, 2023

MICE UG 42 will be held on January 10th, 3:00 PM, at the University’s Information Technology Building, 2218 University Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414, Room 185. It is across University Ave SE from Huntington Bank Stadium (Formerly TCF Bank Stadium). See the link to the Campus Map below. This room has a video room system, and remote access will be available via Zoom video or phone audio, see Zoom details below. Please enter the building through the middle of three doors on the Ontario St SE side of the building. It will be open after 2:30 and will have a sign on it. If not, please knock hard, or call my cell phone (612-812-9952). This door is outside the meeting room, preventing everyone from traipsing through the building. The Stadium Village Green Line Light Rail Station is less than a block east of the building, kitty-corner at the intersection of University Ave SE and Huron Blvd SE. See the link below for the station's info page. Limited Street Parking is available on Ontario St SE and Beacon St SE. Otherwise, public parking is available in the Oak St and University Ave Ramps, each a little over two blocks away. Also, the Maroon lot is a little further on the Stadium's north side. See the link below for more parking details. DO NOT park in University Parking Lot 70 on the north of the building, by the front door, between University Ave SE and the building, or Parking Lot 71 near the loading dock to the east of the building, they are contract parking only, and you be ticketed. Also, DO NOT park in the private parking lot to the south of the building; you will likely be tagged, booted, and towed from that parking lot. https://campusmaps.umn.edu/information-technology https://www.metrotransit.org/stadium-village-station https://pts.umn.edu/Park/Basic-Parking-Information/Parking-Facilities ---------- David E Farmer III is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: MICE UG 42 Time: Jan 10, 2023 03:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/92302900851?pwd=azZqR08xMzZhUDVzY3BiVmFNT3Y4QT09 Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: JacR0t One tap mobile +16513728299,,92302900851#,,,,*876480# US (Minnesota) +13017158592,,92302900851#,,,,*876480# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 651 372 8299 US (Minnesota) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: 876480 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/a2FCO8ubU Join by SIP 92302900851(a)zoomcrc.com Join by H.323 162.255.37.11 (US West) 162.255.36.11 (US East) 221.122.88.195 (China) 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai) 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad) 213.19.144.110 (Amsterdam Netherlands) 213.244.140.110 (Germany) 103.122.166.55 (Australia Sydney) 103.122.167.55 (Australia Melbourne) 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR) 149.137.40.110 (Singapore) 64.211.144.160 (Brazil) 69.174.57.160 (Canada Toronto) 65.39.152.160 (Canada Vancouver) 207.226.132.110 (Japan Tokyo) 149.137.24.110 (Japan Osaka) Meeting ID: 923 0290 0851 Passcode: 876480 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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Please welcome August Internet Limited to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 22, 2022

Dec. 22, 2022

Name: August Internet Limited Switch: NOCIX Port: E 5/2 ASN: 50058 IPv4: 206.108.255.203/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:C38A::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)august.tw Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome KC Fiber to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 22, 2022

Dec. 22, 2022

Name: KC Fiber Switch: NOCIX Port: Ethernet 5/3 ASN: 11708 IPv4: This is a port/switch move, all IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)wholesaleinternet.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Wholesale Internet to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 21, 2022

Dec. 21, 2022

Name: Wholesale Internet Switch: NOCIX Port: Ethernet 5/1 ASN: 32097 IPv4: This is a port move, all IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)wholesaleinternet.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Eastern Iowa Data Group to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 18, 2022

Dec. 18, 2022

Name: Eastern Iowa Data Group Switch: Southfront Albert Lea Port: Ethernet 8/2 ASN: 63394 IPv4: This is a port addition to 3x10G. All IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: EIDG(a)Vantagepnt.com Route Servers: No BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome OmniTel Communications to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 18, 2022

Dec. 18, 2022

Name: OnmiTel Communications Switch: Southfront Albert Lea Port: Ethernet 10/1 ASN: 62886 IPv4: This is a port upgrade to 100G. All IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: it(a)omnitel.biz Route Servers: Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome UnitedHealth Group to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Dec. 12, 2022

Dec. 12, 2022

Name: UnitedHealth Group Switch: MICE Main Ports: 3/28/1 & 6/24/1 (200G Po 12) ASN: 10879 IPv4: 206.108.255.198/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2A7F::1/64 Peering Contact: inet_ops(a)uhc.com Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Google Peering
by Tom Krenn Nov. 25, 2022

Nov. 25, 2022

I just wanted to give a heads up to anyone else who might also have been waiting. I had a peering session with Google approved via their ISP portal yesterday. So after a couple years it looks like they have their new system in place and appear to be accepting requests again. Good luck! Tom Krenn Network Architect Enterprise Architecture - Information Technology Office: 612-596-8994 tom.krenn(a)hennepin.us<mailto:tom.krenn@hennepin.us> | hennepin.us<https://hennepin.us/> Hennepin County Government Center 300 South 6th Street, A-190 Minneapolis, MN, 55487 [Hennepin County logo] Connect: Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/hennepin> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/Hennepin> | YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/user/HennepinMN> | LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/company/hennepin-county> | Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/hennepincounty> Disclaimer: If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please immediately notify the sender of the transmission error and then promptly permanently delete this message from your computer system.

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Please welcome Truestream to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby Nov. 21, 2022

Nov. 21, 2022

Name: Truestream Switch: MICE Core Port: E 5/2 ASN: 398143 IPv4: 206.108.255.188/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:133F::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)truestreamfiber.com Route Servers: No BFD: No Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Anyone lose peering with CloudFlare this morning at 4:13 am?
by Frank Bulk Nov. 14, 2022

Nov. 14, 2022

Both IPv4 and IPv6. I didn't see any exceeding of prefix limits. Frank Oct 12 04:13:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.45 (AS13335.micemn.net) (AS 13335 CLOUDFLARENET, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Oct 12 04:13:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::3417:0:1 (AS13335.micemn.net) (AS 13335 CLOUDFLARENET, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle

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Proposal: MICE Static MAC address Only
by Jay Hanke Nov. 3, 2022

Nov. 3, 2022

I propose we change the MICE required port security settings to be hard filtered for a single static mac address per port. Over the years, we've had several incidents where floods have occurred prior to port being error-disabled during a looping event. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE - IXP Manager - Change Control Access
by Justin Krejci Oct. 31, 2022

Oct. 31, 2022

Spinning off a new thread from the static/mac-limit/port-security conversation. The IXP Manager can generate an instruction command and makes it available to the Arista(s). The switch(es) could pull the config using a script that further sanitizes/validates the config its pulling before applying. This would prevent IXP Manager from having its own direct access to the switch. This could also be the case for pulling data from the switch(es) as well. Patterned after a TR-069 or similar concept, the switch could phone home to the IXP manager (once a minute cronjob for example) and see if there is anything the IXP manager wants done. A simple text based file (json, etc) is generated by the IXP manager and the Arista would then just query this file and parse out instructions and perform actions as instructed or ignore them if malformed or otherwise not allowed. Obviously this is would be only for Arista switch(es) managed by MICE. I don't have any IXP Manager experience beyond simple user but I know Arista can do this fairly easily. It could also just be a RESTful API even. Maybe something like this already exists I have no idea but I would highlight the two things this concept does 1: Allows IXP manager to affect change without direct access to the switch(es) 2: Allows the Arista switch(es) to ultimately decide to accept or ignore instructions to make config changes, send info, perform other actions like bounce my member port, apply TCP/179 filtering to my port, show me some log data, etc. This concept could also apply to the route servers too since they also run a *nix OS like Arista. This would not be a simple/quick idea but I feel would check various boxes for people: air gap, allows automation/self-service, and if automation fails it results in a fallback to manual only changes like we are doing today anyways, etc. Since I know MICE does have money, it could be dev work hired out to someone or a team to produce and then MICE retains rights to the resultant code. We have enough people across our membership that I am sure we could validate the code is sound and also perform bugfixes as needed going forward, perhaps even make it public, GPL style. Maybe IXP Manager already has some of this functionality? Last second additional thought, simple instructions (eg add a second MAC address, show me log data for my port) get automatically approved. Bigger changes (remove/change my MAC address, some other action) need to get some sort of manual approval by the tech team so it can be scrutinized first. None of this needs to be done in IXP Manager either but some other custom, purpose built web portal. Maybe I'm way overthinking this. Food for thought at any rate. -Justin

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Re: Proposal: MICE Static MAC address Only
by Jeremy Lumby Oct. 31, 2022

Oct. 31, 2022

I second that proposal Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 Direct 612-392-6814 EFax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com -------- Original message -------- From: Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO> Date: 10/31/22 8:27 AM (GMT-06:00) To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Proposal: MICE Static MAC address Only _____ >From : Jay Hanke [jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO] To : MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] Date : Monday, October 31 2022 08:27:14 I propose we change the MICE required port security settings to be hard filtered for a single static mac address per port. Over the years, we've had several incidents where floods have occurred prior to port being error-disabled during a looping event. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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