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Integra Peer
by Tony Radzwon 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

Integra is now connected to the MICE Exchange, with a 10GigE connection. We are bilateral only. our connection information is below. AS:7385 IPv6: 2001:504:27::1cd9:0:1 IPv4: 206.108.255.62 Auth: None Required Current advertised prefixes: ipv4 >1200 (recommended max prefix ~1500) ipv6 >20 (recommended max-prefix ~100) http://as7385.peeringdb.com/ Peering email: peering(a)integra.net Happy Peering, Tony Radzwon ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SC Nominees/UG Update
by Koch, Andrew 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

> -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Announcements [mailto:MICE-ANNOUNCE@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On > Behalf Of Jay Hanke > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 > To: MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SC Nominees/UG Update > > We have three candidates running for the open MICE SC seat. > > Dan Boehlke-TIES > Ryan Goldberg-Compudyne [member] > Mike Hemphill-Cologix > > We will hold the election at our next UG meeting > > Feb 20, 2013 4 pm @ 511 Building 511 11th Ave S, Minneapolis Can the UG meeting details be updated on the website? It might also be good to have the current SC and candidate details be made available there as well. Regards, Andy Koch TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com Desk: 608-664-4694 Cell: 608-616-0072 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE SC Nominees/UG Update
by Jay Hanke 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

We have three candidates running for the open MICE SC seat. Dan Boehlke-TIES Ryan Goldberg-Compudyne [member] Mike Hemphill-Cologix We will hold the election at our next UG meeting Feb 20, 2013 4 pm @ 511 Building 511 11th Ave S, Minneapolis You, or a proxy, must be present and a member in good peering to vote. Cologix is sponsoring the meeting. Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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NANOG
by Jay Hanke 05 Feb '13

05 Feb '13

Anyone at NANOG? MICE needs a favor. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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SC Candidates Status
by Jay Hanke 01 Feb '13

01 Feb '13

We have three candidates for the open SC seat so far. Dan Boehlke-TIES Ryan Goldberg-Compudyne [member] Mike Hemphill-Cologix I'm going to close the nominations today at 5 PM Central. If you'd like to run then unicast me and I'll add you to the list. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IPv6 funny business from AS16904 - ARVIG
by James Stahr 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

Please fix your IPv6 filters: Jan 29 16:45:32.374 CST: %BGP-4-MAXPFX: Number of prefixes received from 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:1 (afi 1) reaches 48, max 50 r-pop-min-1# Jan 29 16:45:32.374 CST: %BGP-3-MAXPFXEXCEED: Number of prefixes received from 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:1 (afi 1): 51 exceeds limit 50 Debug: Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd 2A02:7100::/32 Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd UPDATE w/ attr: nexthop 2001:504:27::4208:0:1 (FE80::227:DFF:FED3:B470), origin i, merged path 16904 174 33597 36236, AS_PATH Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd 2607:F740:101::/48 Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd UPDATE w/ attr: nexthop 2001:504:27::4208:0:1 (FE80::227:DFF:FED3:B470), origin i, merged path 16904 6939 3356 47605 196655, AS_PATH Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd 2A00:1F50::/32 Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd UPDATE w/ attr: nexthop 2001:504:27::4208:0:1 (FE80::227:DFF:FED3:B470), origin i, merged path 16904 6939 31939, AS_PATH Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd 2607:F1E8::/32 Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd UPDATE w/ attr: nexthop 2001:504:27::4208:0:1 (FE80::227:DFF:FED3:B470), origin i, merged path 16904 6939 56515, AS_PATH Jan 29 16:37:15.255 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd 2A02:E30:F002::/48 Jan 29 16:37:15.267 CST: BGP(1): 2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2 rcvd UPDATE w/ attr: nexthop 2001:504:27::4208:0:1 (FE80::227:DFF:FED3:B470), origin ?, merged path 16904 174 26482, AS_PATH ... Thanks, -James ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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OT: cogent funny business?
by Ryan Goldberg 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

Anybody noticing any cogent funny business today? I'm getting sporadic reports of momentary lost connectivity to prefixes we typically reach via cogent. Haven't had a chance to get to a computer yet though. Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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SC Elections
by Jay Hanke 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

We currently have 2 candidates for the open SC seat. We could use a couple more... -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE renumbering project -- final cleanup 1/26/2013
by Doug McIntyre 26 Jan '13

26 Jan '13

I guess this slipped off my radar, meant to do this sooner. On Saturday, 1/26/2013 between 11:30PM and midnight, I'll be doing the final cleanup of renumbering on the MICE route reflector servers for the MICE renumbering project. This will be removing any trace of the old IP addressing off there, and rebooting each server in turn to clear everything out, while also reconfiguring BIRD to drop the original session, only leaving the new ones going. Then we can return the loan of the IP address space back to Airstream and close out this project. Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Next MICE Meeting; Feb 20, 4 pm @ 511 Building
by Shaun Carlson 22 Jan '13

22 Jan '13

All, We will be having our next MICE UG meeting at the 511 building conference room on Wednesday, February 20th at 4 pm. Current agenda items include: - Steering Committee Elections - Review/Resume Fee Discussions - Netflix Update Please let me know if you have any additional items you would like added to the agenda. Cologix will be sponsoring the meeting and providing beverages and munchies for the meeting. Please remember to thank Mike Hemphill and the Cologix staff for their support. Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson *Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: Participants List
by Doug McIntyre 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

> * It is complete, right? Have the old IPs been dropped from the route servers? Err, I guess I hadn't finished that last step. I'll schedule up an outage for each route server to clear everything out of there. Probably this Saturday night, although routing impact should be minimal when doing one at a time. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Participants List
by Richard Laager 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

I just made an updating pass through the participants list. It's now up-to-date to the best of my knowledge...except for 3 providers who should be up, but I can't ping at all. I left them listed as up for now, and emailed their contacts. I dropped the old IPs now that the renumbering is complete.* If you object, please let me know and I can restore my backup copy. * It is complete, right? Have the old IPs been dropped from the route servers? -- Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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2013 MICE SC Elections
by Jay Hanke 17 Jan '13

17 Jan '13

We have one seat opening up on the MICE steering committee. We are looking for volunteers! As a member of the SC you'll oversee the business and marketing aspects of the MICE exchange including organizing the UG meetings. This is a 3 year term. The workload is fairly light but very important and rewarding. SC members do NOT need to be MICE members. Previous SC members may not run for the SC for 1 year after their term expires. There will be one election per year going forward. Here is a list of the present and past terms: Open Slot 2013-2016 (3 year) Shaun Carlson (Arvig)- 2012-2015 Elected (3 year) Reid Fishler (HE.net)- 2011-2014 Elected (3 year) Jay Hanke (Mankato Networks)- 2010-2013 Appointed (3 year) Not Eligible for election Mike Horwath (ipHouse)- 2010-2012 Appointed (2 year) Not Eligible for election Dave Farmer (UofM)- 2010-2011 Appointed (1 year) Eligible for election Please unicast your nominations to me at jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net. I will send out a notification when we get to 5 candidates. Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IP migrations
by Jay Hanke 16 Jan '13

16 Jan '13

It would appear a number of members have not yet added the new IP addresses to their MICE Configurations. If you haven't updated your config you are currently NOT able to reach all of the MICE networks. I would also recommend that you look in the looking glass and verify at least one of your next-hops is in the new range. Please update your configurations. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Route Server #1
by Justin Krejci 16 Jan '13

16 Jan '13

I lost my BGP session to the #1 server 9 minutes ago and currently no ping/arp/nd for ipv4 and ipv6. Everything else looks fine. Anyone seeing this or know if something is going on with the server? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Q1 new members
by Jeremy Lumby 13 Jan '13

13 Jan '13

Just checking in for a status update if anyone knows of an update on new members connecting. Last I heard Integra was going to wait to connect after the holidays, and Netflix was looking at Q1 of this year. Please let me know if anyone has any updates. I also remember something along the lines of maintenance fees going into effect this year. Has anyone settled on a number yet? Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Christmas Day traffic increase
by Justin Krejci 26 Dec '12

26 Dec '12

Guessing Akamai helped feed lots of ipad/ipod activations and ios updates yesterday. Looks like we hit the 3gig mark from just Akamai alone almost. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Potential MICE member agreement
by Jeremy Lumby 17 Dec '12

17 Dec '12

I have not heard much discussion of maintenance fees lately, however a recent set of two situations brought an idea to the front of my mind. Should MICE have a very basic agreement with each of its members? The reason I bring this up is that we want to keep everyone's experience with the community positive. For example the agreement could contain a requirement to upgrade your connection if it is saturated to the point of causing packet loss (which I would assume members would want to do on their own). The reason I bring this up is because in the past few months I have run across carriers that I am purchasing from that had saturated peering. The two different carriers had two completely different approaches, and the second one concerns me, and is the reason I bring up the MICE agreement. The first was with Hurricane. They had a saturated link to Charter in Chicago. Within an hour of emailing in the details of what I had found to support, they had confirmed the issue, started sending me regular updates until the link upgrade was completed. Due to the short time period that this trouble ticket lasted, I felt it went much better than I would have hoped. The second issue was with Cogent. They had, and possibly still have a saturated peering link with TimeWarner in Chicago. It took me 3 emails with support across 2 business days to get them to believe the issue existed, and then once they got on the same page as me, the would not even provide me with updates on if they will even fix the issue. I have included their final support email below. After waiting a few days hoping they would just fix it, I was forced to manipulate BGP to avoid this saturated link. The bottom line is I bring this up because even though I am a paying customer of both carriers, the second situation made me feel powerless, and that I was not valued as a customer. I realize that they probably have their legal reasons to keep me in the dark, however it has now made me an unhappy customer, and if there was a simple agreement in place about how the peering link should be maintained, then there would be a timeframe for this to be resolved within. Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: Cogent Help Desk [mailto:support@cogentco.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:03 PM To: jlumby(a)mnvoip.com Subject: RE: #HD0000005266692-RE: Related Case: HD0000005265974-Packet Loss for customer TWINCITY00001 Dear Cogent Customer, The latency and/or packet loss that you are experiencing to this destination is due to occasional high traffic with our peer TimeWarner . Our peering engineers have made them aware of the continuing issue and are pending their response. Cogent is ready to act as soon as we have cooperation from our peer and they are ready to move forward. There is no estimated time of resolve. Please understand that Cogent does not discuss peering specific plans with our customers. Our customer support group will not be able to provide regular updates in regard to peer maintenance. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us by e-mail at support(a)cogentco.com or by phone at 877-7COGENT (877-726-4368). Thank You, Cogent Communications T 877.726.4368, option 2 F 202.295.9061 E support(a)cogentco.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: MICE Renumbering
by David Farmer 17 Dec '12

17 Dec '12

I apologize for implying you hadn't done you part and thanks for fixing it, I now see you announcing the new next-hop address. On 12/16/12 20:11 , James Stahr wrote: > I can't speak for anyone else, but I thought I had completed the changes by swapping my $C secondary addresses around a few weeks ago and thought I was done. But it looks like I did the swap too quickly and even though 69.147.218.26 was now a secondary address and all of my BGP sessions were using 206.108.255.26 as the source IP, I was still advertising the next-hop using the old block. Turns out if the BGP sessions don't drop, the next-hop won't change. As I've previously stated, my $C equipment cannot advertise routes with BOTH next-hops. > > -James > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer@umn.edu] > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:46 PM > To: MICE Discuss; peering(a)wiktel.com; James Stahr; mwilker(a)jagcom.net; servicenotices(a)atomicdata.com > Cc: farmer(a)umn.edu > Subject: MICE Renumbering > > OK, I think it is now time for a little public shaming; the following MICE participants are only announcing their prefixes using the old next-hop addresses through the route servers. We were all suppose to be using only the new addresses as of two weeks ago. There is one other participant announce with both the old and the new next-hop address, we (Northern Lights GigAPOP) just stopped doing this earlier today, and are now announcing using only the new next-hop addresses. All other participants are announcing to the route servers are using only the new next-hop addresses. > > AS33362 Wikstrom Telephone Company (Wiktel) > AS25694 Atomic Data > AS15011 Jaguar Communications > AS3599 CDW/Berbee > > Please convert your peering session to announcing with the new next-hop addresses, ASAP. If for some reason you can't do this in the next week, please send a note to the MICE-DISCUSS mailing list detailing when you will be converting. > > As a reminder, here is the original cutover schedule that was emailed out several months ago: > > Addition of Address Secondary: before 10/1/2012 > New Prefix Announcements: after 10/1/2012 > Final use of old IP address next-hop: before 11/30/2012 > Removal of old IP address range: after 12/1/2012 > Project End: 12/31/2012 > > Thanks. > -- > ================================================ > David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ > -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Renumbering
by David Farmer 16 Dec '12

16 Dec '12

OK, I think it is now time for a little public shaming; the following MICE participants are only announcing their prefixes using the old next-hop addresses through the route servers. We were all suppose to be using only the new addresses as of two weeks ago. There is one other participant announce with both the old and the new next-hop address, we (Northern Lights GigAPOP) just stopped doing this earlier today, and are now announcing using only the new next-hop addresses. All other participants are announcing to the route servers are using only the new next-hop addresses. AS33362 Wikstrom Telephone Company (Wiktel) AS25694 Atomic Data AS15011 Jaguar Communications AS3599 CDW/Berbee Please convert your peering session to announcing with the new next-hop addresses, ASAP. If for some reason you can't do this in the next week, please send a note to the MICE-DISCUSS mailing list detailing when you will be converting. As a reminder, here is the original cutover schedule that was emailed out several months ago: Addition of Address Secondary: before 10/1/2012 New Prefix Announcements: after 10/1/2012 Final use of old IP address next-hop: before 11/30/2012 Removal of old IP address range: after 12/1/2012 Project End: 12/31/2012 Thanks. -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Graphing issue?
by Mike Bushard, Jr 12 Dec '12

12 Dec '12

I was digging through the mice graph's. Appears we lost about a gig and a half at 18:45 or so according to the aggregate graph. I think it's related to what looks like a loss of graphing of the cns switch. Mike Bushard Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.0178 direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID RAZR by Motorola Please excuse short responses and spelling errors. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Traffic Drop?
by Dean Bahls 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

Hey Guys, We've seen a pretty significant drop in traffic through MICE starting at about 10:00PM on Thursday. Anyone else notice this and know what might be happening? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls Network Services Manager Cooperative Network Services, LLC (218) 346-3635 (office) dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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PeeringDB Entries Housekeeping
by Justin Krejci 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

For those that use PeeringDB, don't forget to update your peer addresses there for MICE post-renumbering. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE in good company, in HE.net press release
by Urberg-Carlson, Bradley 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

http://he.net/releases/2011-11-16.html : Fremont, California - November 14, 2011 - Hurricane Electric, the world's largest IPv6-native Internet backbone and colocation provider, announced that it has upgraded global peering bandwidth to five locations worldwide in response to increased global traffic. Hurricane Electric's upgrades in Amsterdam, Hong Kong, London, Los Angeles and Minneapolis will provide Hurricane Electric's customers with increased throughput, reduced latency and improved reliability. Hurricane Electric has upgraded to 10 Gigabit Ethernet ports (10 Gbps) at the following exchanges: LONAP (London), NLIX (Amsterdam), LAIIX (Los Angeles) and MICE (Minneapolis). In addition, Hurricane Electric has added another port at the HKIX (Hong Kong) Internet Exchange Point. -- Bradley Urberg Carlson Network Architect TDS Hosted and Managed Services Direct: 612.395.8935 Email: bradley.urberg-carlson(a)tdshms.com<mailto:bradley.urberg-carlson@tdshms.com> -- Bradley Urberg Carlson Network Architect TDS Hosted and Managed Services Direct: 612.395.8935 Email: bradley.urberg-carlson(a)tdshms.com<mailto:bradley.urberg-carlson@tdshms.com> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Renumbering Status Update 11/1/2012
by Doug McIntyre 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

Just a quick update of the MICE renumbering project, current as of 11/1/12. I can measure the hosts talking to the route reflectors, although not any private bi-lateral peering others have setup. Of the 26 active talkers on the MICE route-reflectors right at this moment, only 3 are using only the old IP addresses and not pinging for the new addresses. Furthermore, we're down to 10 sessions announcing only the old next-hop IP address. They have not yet changed their BGP announcements to set the new next-hop IP addressing. But that still is 62% of members that have completed the renumbering phase that we are currently in. So thank you to all those that have. It would be best for those 10 still on the old next-hop to get their BGP updated to announce their new next-hop IP address, as the next phase of the renumbering project is only a month away. Then, members will start removing the old range from their configs, and the people who haven't switched yet will have reachability problems getting to those that are following the schedule. Again, here is the cutover schedule that was emailed out: Addition of Address Secondary: before 10/1/2012 New Prefix Announcements: after 10/1/2012 Final use of old IP address next-hop: before 11/30/2012 Removal of old IP address range: after 12/1/2012 Project End: 12/31/2012 Thanks! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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