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Coop Legal Documents
by Jason Hanke March 17, 2015

March 17, 2015

Are there draft legal documents available for the Coop formation? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE Donation
by Mike Hemphill March 17, 2015

March 17, 2015

Good morning MICE Members, The Board would like to thank Hurricane Electric for their generous donation of $1,000. This donation will assist in helping us pay our current legal fees. We still are in need of additional cash donations, to meet this as well as future needs. If any member would care to donate please let me know. I am more than happy to generate an invoice for the amount that your company/organization would like to donate. We appreciate all members and your support of the exchange! Certainly we are excited about the growth that we have seen and look forward to even further growth in the future. See you soon at the next UG meeting. Best regards, Mike Mike Hemphill General Manager | *Cologix, Inc.* <http://www.cologix.com/> 511 11th Ave S, Suite 450 | Minneapolis, MN 55415 P: 1+612.333.1922 | M: 1+612.812.5242 mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com

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Mice route server stability
by Timothy Peiffer March 16, 2015

March 16, 2015

The UofM has seen 4 or 5 bounces of it's peer with the mice route server. Knowing it's history, the route server should be examined. Tim Peiffer

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MICE UG Meeting
by Jason Hanke March 14, 2015

March 14, 2015

Has the time and location been firmed up for the MICE UG meeting? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE UG
by Jason Hanke March 10, 2015

March 10, 2015

Did we get a confirmed time/location for the MICE meeting? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please welcome IVdesk to MICE
by Jason Hanke Feb. 25, 2015

Feb. 25, 2015

Company: IV Desk ASN: 393639 Port: Main Switch (4200)- ge-1/0/16 IPv4: 206.108.255.47/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:01a7::1/64 Contact: peering(a)ivdesk.com Website and Route Servers Please! Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Not getting Google routes via RS
by Thomas Boshardy Feb. 18, 2015

Feb. 18, 2015

WiscNet does not appear to be getting any routes from Google on either route server. Is there something that has to be setup for this? Looking at the traffic graphs Google must be working but may help if someone else can confirm they are seeing routes from 15169 on the servers. Thanks, Tom Boshardy WiscNet

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Juniper support contract
by dangieser Feb. 9, 2015

Feb. 9, 2015

All- The support contracts have been renewed now for the Juniper equipment currently in place. Thanks, Dan Gieser Mankato Networks Cell: 507-327-5341 Desk: 507-242-6469 dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net

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Fwd: Case # 137226 - BGP Session - MICE RS 1 Down
by Jason Hanke Feb. 9, 2015

Feb. 9, 2015

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Support <Support(a)usinternet.com> Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:24 AM Subject: Case # 137226 - BGP Session - MICE RS 1 Down To: "peering(a)micemn.net" <peering(a)micemn.net> Hello, We are currently seeing one of our BGP Sessions to you as down using the IP of 206.108.255.1. Are you currently experiencing an outage or doing maintenance that would cause this? Please let us know. Thank you, *Grant Johnson* Technical Support 952-253-3290 ・ 1-800-US-INTERNET 12450 Wayzata Blvd. Suite 315 ・ Minnetonka, MN 55305 [image: Description: Sig Temp] <http://usinternet.com/> -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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FW: ARIN Fellowship Program
by Frank Bulk Feb. 6, 2015

Feb. 6, 2015

FYI, just in case there are those who are interested in policy. _____ Time is running out! Don't miss your chance to submit an application for the ARIN 35 Fellowship program to take advantage of this great opportunity to join us at ARIN 35 in San Francisco from 12-15 April 2015. If you have never attended an ARIN meeting, we invite you to come and learn more about ARIN services, meet industry peers and voice your opinions in policy discussions. Take a few minutes and submit your application before next week's Feb. 13 deadline at: https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/fellowship.html Selected Fellows will receive free airfare, hotel, and a stipend. Three fellowships are available, one for each area of the ARIN service region: Caribbean, USA, and Canada. This program was developed to encourage new participants, so if you regularly attend ARIN meetings please forward this information to a colleague in order to help ARIN cultivate new voices. Please direct any questions you have to info(a)arin.net<mailto:info@arin.net>. Regards, Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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Packet loss across the exchange
by Jeremy Lumby Jan. 31, 2015

Jan. 31, 2015

Just wondering if others are seeing packet loss across the exchange that just started Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Re: Packet loss across the exchange
by Adam White Jan. 31, 2015

Jan. 31, 2015

Thanks for the info Anthony. Do you know if Juniper has a PR # (or a case #) for the bug you describe? I'd like to get some more info on it. On Jan 30, 2015 8:55 PM, Anthony Anderberg <anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET> wrote: I was on the road this afternoon and unable to safely contribute or comment, but it looks like everyone came together and correctly diagnosed and resolved the issues. I thought I'd follow up to a few questions/comments to make sure all is clear. > clear ethernet-switching table From the logs, comments, and graphs I'm sure we ran into that software bug again, regardless of any original leaf-node issues. The switch gets into a state where MAC addresses are not all correctly added to the L2 forwarding database so some destinations are treated as broadcasts. After issuing the command above the switch recovers from its funk and the table populates normally. Once our maintenance is reinstated we'll try to carve out some time to open a ticket, and upgrade software if needed. Thanks to our friends at Wistrom Telephone for stepping up to the plate once again on that. Speaking of which, given how important the exchange seems to be to members I assume everyone will be eager to offer both time and financial support as needs arise in the future. There's nothing magic happening here, just hard work and capital... same as any endeavor. > It doesn't look like Anthony applied the controls onto > the leaf switches, like Mankato Networks', that is > currently not applied. Also correct, our L2 security plans centered around member facing ports - the definition of which may shift over time, along with configuration. Note that we do have spanning tree running between the exchange's three switches, and it appears to have worked properly to change the state of the Mankato switch port, but switching-table bug reared its ugly head at the same time. > Only suggestion would be to make the storm control limits > consistent (i.e.: Juniper == 10% of 1g port right now, > Cisco = 20%) That's certainly something that can be revisited, the current values were somewhat arbitrary - our goal was to start off liberal to avoid any chance of tripping up normal traffic. As a side note, we've had several times where the L2 security configs have shutdown individual member ports because of ingress BPDUs or MAC address limits so I'm sure they're working correctly. The storm control is a little harder to judge, logs show it kicking in during this afternoon's incident but the underlying bug made it ineffective. Thanks everyone, anthony

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Google Maintenance
by Jeremy Lumby Jan. 28, 2015

Jan. 28, 2015

I just wanted to let everyone know that Google's maintenance is complete, and traffic will be returning to normal shortly. Originally the upgrade was not going to support IPv6, however extra effort was put into the upgrade so that IPv6 is supported immediately. Some members may have read that Google's peering policy does not allow bi-lateral peering, however that is not the case with their connection to MICE. MICE members can request to bi-laterally peer with them. If for some reason you are having an issue getting peering(a)google.com to setup a bi-lateral BGP session, shoot me an off list email, and I can get you in touch with people that are familiar with the differences in their MICE connection. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Acentek Port Upgrade
by Jason Hanke Jan. 27, 2015

Jan. 27, 2015

Acentek is moving from a GE allocation on the Mankato Networks Remote switch to a 10G port on the primary switch. The new assignment is Main Switch xe-0/0/30. Please verify the assignment and update website and cacti. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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WiscNet/AS2381 maintenance 2015-01-21 6:45am
by Chris Wopat Jan. 20, 2015

Jan. 20, 2015

At approximately 6:45am tomorrow morning, WiscNet will be performing a software upgrade on a router which will cause peers to briefly go down. AS2381 206.108.255.125 2001:504:27:0:0:094d::1 Cheers, -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat(a)wiscnet.net 608-210-3965

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Google Maintenance
by Jeremy Lumby Jan. 20, 2015

Jan. 20, 2015

Just to let everyone know, tomorrow afternoon Google will be conducting an upgrade that will disrupt their traffic to the exchange, and could last up to a couple days.

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Land o' Lakes (AS14161)
by Richard Laager Jan. 17, 2015

Jan. 17, 2015

At the MICE meeting on Wednesday, there was someone attending from AS14161. Are you on this list (or one of the people I BCC'ed)? I believe you said you were connected to MICE, but not exchanging any traffic yet. If so, I'd like to update the records, as I don't have you on the participants page: http://micemn.net/participants.html Are you connected directly, or to a remote switch? What's your IP, peering contact, etc.? If I've misunderstood your status and you're not yet connected, then we don't need to do anything at this time. We'll get all the details figured out as part of the connection process. -- Richard

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UG 15 Minutes
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 15, 2015

Jan. 15, 2015

Please see attached, let me know of any corrections. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 15 Agenda
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 14, 2015

Jan. 14, 2015

All, Please find the attached MICE UG 15 Agenda with requested updates. See you all tomorrow! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG15; Please RESPOND by Tuesday, January 13th!
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 13, 2015

Jan. 13, 2015

Good morning, I have several things for the group this morning. *MICE UG 15* First, a reminder of our upcoming meeting on: *Wednesday, January 14th, 2015 @ 4:00 PM in the 511 Building Cafeteria* *RSVP Request* In order to plan appropriately and ensure we meet quorum rules for voting purposes, please respond NLT 13 Jan 2015 with the following: *Organization Name*: *Attendance plan (In-Person, Remote, Not Attending)*: *Number of planned attendees for remote call in*: * The last item is to ensure I have enough seats available in the webex room *Remote Attendance Information* If you're attending remote, here is the information you'll need: *Service*: Webex (www.webex.com) *Meeting Number*: 191 022 802 *Meeting Password*: UG14is4Me! *Meeting URL*: http://bit.ly/1xYUPRq *Agenda* Attached is the draft copy of our agenda for UG 15. Please let me know if you'd like anything added or changed. *UG 14 Minutes* Attached are the minutes from UG 14. Please review and let me know of any corrections. Thanks, see you Wednesday! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 15 - Request for Sponsor
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 9, 2015

Jan. 9, 2015

All, We are need of a sponsor for refreshments following the meeting. Any volunteers? I'll be able to provide expected attendance numbers by Tuesday of next week. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Re: MICE UG15; Please RESPOND by Tuesday, January 13th!
by Ryan Goldberg Jan. 9, 2015

Jan. 9, 2015

Organization Name: Compudyne As47096 Attendance plan (In-Person, Remote, Not Attending): In Person Number of planned attendees for remote call in: 0

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UG 15 Reminder
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 5, 2015

Jan. 5, 2015

All, Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if you will be attending remotely. Thanks and I'll see you all there! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Re: UG 15 Reminder
by Chris Wopat Jan. 5, 2015

Jan. 5, 2015

> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:59:18 -0600 > From: Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)NEUTRALPATH.NET> > Subject: Re: UG 15 Reminder > > There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. > > Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? Folks, Curious if any progress has been made for a decent call in solution? I had called in last meeting and it was very difficult to make out anything. Thanks! Chris Wopat

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Statistics reporting for MICE?
by Hannigan, Martin Jan. 4, 2015

Jan. 4, 2015

FYI, http://micelg.usinternet.com/export/graph_385.html shows in+out where http://micelg.usinternet.com/export/graph_384.html shows in/out. Which one should we use? I'd like to suggest that MICE follow OIX-1 with respect to agg and other stats: "The IXP MUST publish on a publicly available website the total sum of all incoming and outgoing traffic in bps from all connected networks on the public peering VLAN. The traffic sum MUST include the traffic on customer facing ports only and MUST be made up of 5 min average traffic measurements. A distinction MUST be made between the traffic on the public peering VLAN and any other interconnection service." Traffic "massiveness" isn't as important as how many ASNs are connected. Traffic is an unpredictable and unreliable indicator of an exchanges size and value. ASN counts are much more granular for potential peers to build a case to join. Best, -M<

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