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Upgraded Jaguar 10G Port
by Jason Hanke 09 Dec '15

09 Dec '15

Please allocate xe-0/1/2 on the Main EX4500 to Jaguar Communications. IP information will remain the same. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Peering With Apple
by Ben Wiechman 01 Dec '15

01 Dec '15

Does anyone have a peering contact for Apple? We've sent a number of requests to the address listed on peeringdb.com and haven't received a response.

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BGP communities on Route Servers
by Andrew Hoyos 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Hi folks, Some time ago, I recall a discussion and/or email thread about BGP action communities on the route servers (i.e.: don’t advertise to certain peers, prepends, etc). Are these in place, and if so, documented anywhere? If not, could I volunteer some cycles to get in place? I looked through the archives a bit, and poked on the website, but didn’t see anything. Thanks, Andrew — Andrew Hoyos Hoyos Consulting LLC ofc: +1 608 616 9950 andrew(a)hoyosconsulting.com http://www.hoyosconsulting.com

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VM donation- change control/graph data backup
by Andrew Hoyos 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi folks, One of the things that was discussed in the meeting yesterday as change control and config backups. Perhaps along those same lines, we should think about also backing up the graph data somewhere. I’m not sure where any of this data physically lives right now, but perhaps it would make sense to put somewhere *other* than the 511 bldg. I’d like to offer up a VM donation located in Madison, WI to at least run RANCID to grab config backups of the IX switches, as well as a backup target for any data (graphs, route-server config, etc). Effort involved should be minimal, but we’d happily take point on getting RANCID set up and configured as well, and sending diffs to the technical committee, as well as whomever else might see value in seeing config changes happen (perhaps a list?) Let me know, and we’ll make it happen. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

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NorthernLights GigaPoP maintenance 11/22 8 am
by Colin Murphy 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hello, Sending out a heads up that the NorthernLights GigaPoP/University of Minnesota connection to MICE will be down for maintenance this Sunday from 8 am to 9 am. I will be relocating our two 10 gig links to MICE to a new router. If there are any questions or issues please let me know. Thanks, Colin Murphy Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota NorthernLights GigaPoP Desk: 612-626-0870

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Website Version Control
by Richard Laager 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

I've put the website code here for now: https://github.com/rlaager/mice-website Once we get non-profit status, I should be able to get a free github "organization" account for MICE. That would be more correct. -- Richard

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Member SLA's
by Jamison Masters 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

A discussion during the meeting today surrounded a third party maintenance organization, "the SLA vendor," that would accept payment from "Behemoth, Inc." to fulfill Behemoth's SLA (24x7 support, MTTR, etc...). It is established, and I agree that the SLA relationship occurs exclusively between Behemoth and the SLA vendor, and that Behemoth has no higher precedence on the exchange than anyone else. Behemoth is just another port on the switch. However, the SLA vendor would require management access to the IXP equipment to support its SLA, and that is where my concern is. If the SLA vendor is under contract to make Behemoth happy, they may choose to make configuration changes that prioritize their SLA agreement without consideration for the other members in the exchange. e.g., "What if I shut these other ports down to see if it fixes Behemoth's problem?" or, "We just brought on a new MICE member today. Maybe they screwed something up. I'll shut their session down just to see if it affected Behemoth..." We need to thoroughly trust the SLA vendor. What about rights and responsibilities? What penalties will the SLA vendor face if they mangle something for the sake of their contract with Behemoth, Inc., regardless if it nefarious or not? The meeting moved on to change management, an appropriate segue. Jamison Masters Partner / CIO VERUS Corporation 763-354-2204 jamison(a)veruscorp.com

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MICE Fees Nay Fundraising
by Justin Krejci 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

In an effort to not extend the UG discussion further on the "how to get MICE some money" topic today, and as specifically directed by the board, I am posting this idea to the mail list. Given the suggestion of caution that MICE should use when discussing the process of raising funds, I propose the traditional method various associations use of voluntary/charitable donations. The "how much do you feel you and the community benefits from the existence and success of MICE?" approach. Then the little flyer cards with the check boxes next to various suggested dollar amounts is what comes to mind. (hypothetical example) [ ] - $100 / month [ ] - $250 / month [ ] - $500 / month [ ] - $1000 / month [ ] - $_____ / month [ ] - $_____ / one-time MICE could even make note of donor levels if we wanted to get fancy like at all the trade shows: platinum sponsors, gold, silver, tin, plastic, etc. This could be an opt-in choice for donating members if they want to get a little sponsor reference to their website a la CentOS mirros (https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/) Yes, there are logistical issues that would need to be worked out: someone or something to generate payable invoices, the completion of MICE's non-profit status, someone to receive/process payments to MICE, etc. Given the collective knowledge and capabilities of all of the members involved, I don't think any such hurdles are insurmountable. I believe some/many organizations would be willing to make or keep on making financial contributions, I know US Internet fits this category. I wonder how comfortable organizations that are against forced payment for MICE membership would be to contribute voluntarily to MICE in such a fashion. This would at least provide a way to start building some reliable capital vs the ad hoc method of "hey we need to pay the lawyer, can everyone pitch in?" method. I think it would be better to have the funds when needed than to ask for the funds when needed. In any case, I hope to least get the ball rolling on the general topic of funding MICE. Thoughts? Comments? Feedback?

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Posting MICE Meeting Materials
by Justin Krejci 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

I have observed other organizations successfully utilize their website for tracking and posting meeting agendas and meeting meetings. A full blown CMS with revisions/history or a simple flat list or table of URLs can work very well. I suggest something similar be considered for MICE either as a replacement of email or as complement to email. Having a central location makes it consistent and straight forward to retrieve any desired document, current or past. This becomes even more relevant to those that are more recently joining MICE who did not receive the previous emails and so have to dig scrape through mailing list archives if they wish to review and understand the history of MICE. I personally also like that it provides a subtle jab against SMTP from subjugating all of our file transfer methods.

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Webex Online
by Shaun Carlson 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

All, The Webex is online with the following info: *Where*: 511 Cafeteria, WebEx Online *Meeting number*: 195 549 476 *Password*: This meeting does not require a password. Alternate Audio Connection: 1-415-655-0001 *Access code*: 195 549 476 See you there! Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 17 Minutes - FOR REVIEW
by Shaun Carlson 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Please let me know if there are any corrections that need to be noted for the approval of the minutes. Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 18 Agenda and Webex Information
by Shaun Carlson 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

All, My apologies as I'm sending this again. It appears this didn't go out last week as I had thought. Please let me know if there are any agenda additions and I'll make the change prior to the meeting. Webex info is as follows: *Where*: 511 Cafeteria, WebEx Online *Meeting number*: 195 549 476 *Password*: This meeting does not require a password. Alternate Audio Connection: 1-415-655-0001 *Access code*: 195 549 476 Thanks and see you all at 1 pm today! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Agenda Request for Monday's meeting
by Shaun Carlson 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

All, Just a quick request for any agenda items for Monday. I plan to send out the "final" agenda on Thursday. In addition, are there any requests for remote attendance? If so, I'll set the Webex up again. Thanks! s Shaun Carlson Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346.8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Netflix Issues
by Jeremy Lumby 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

I have received several complaints of people not being able to get to Netflix, and after some research it appears that they are using ULTRADNS.NET for their name servers, and that is where the issue lies. I just wanted to see if others were seeing the same thing. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Hoyos Consulting to MICE
by Jason Hanke 25 Oct '15

25 Oct '15

Name: Hoyos Consulting Port: xe-0/2/3 (Main Switch) Speed: 10G ASN: 53597 IPv4: 206.108.255.65/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d15d::1/64 Contact: noc(a)hoyosconsulting.com Route server and website please! Hoyos will be donating additional 10G SFP+ optics to help the cause. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Cologix donates Loaner 4550 switch
by Mike Hemphill 20 Oct '15

20 Oct '15

Good afternoon, Cologix has donated a loaner Juniper 4550 to augment the existing Juniper platform. The intent is to provide a bridge to an ultimate upgrade in the switching platform to a more robust chassis solution. Cologix has purchased a new 4550 which it is “loaning” to MICE. This will allow MICE to accept additional 10-Gig members. Additionally, Cologix will provide the maintenance coverage for this device under an agreement that we have that is covering the rest of the Cologix Juniper platform devices. Cologix is pleased to support MICE and we truly appreciate our customers business & the opportunity to host the MICE platform in the Cologix data center. Best regards, Mike Mike Hemphill General Manager | *Cologix, Inc.* <http://www.cologix.com/> 511 11th Ave S, Suite 200 | Minneapolis, MN 55415 P: 1+612.333.1922 | M: 1+612.812.5242 mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com

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MICE UG Meeting
by Shaun Carlson 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

Good morning all! We are planning on having the next UG meeting on November 16th at 1 pm in the 511 building. I will send out a follow-up with more specific information in the next couple of days. Please let me know what agenda items you may have for the meeting! Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Switch Module Upgrade
by Jeremy Lumby 08 Oct '15

08 Oct '15

The last module has been added to the 4500. There were no issues detected during the installation. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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MICE Route Server issues?
by James Stahr 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

The exchange *seems* fine, but I can't reliably ping the route servers right now. My BGP sessions to them are up and stable, but ICMP isn't operating "normally" - has anything changed? This started at 15:24 CDT today: [stahr@ctg-bastion ~]$ ping -c 10 206.108.255.1 PING 206.108.255.1 (206.108.255.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 206.108.255.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=7.06 ms --- 206.108.255.1 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 1 received, 90% packet loss, time 9000ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7.062/7.062/7.062/0.000 ms [stahr@ctg-bastion ~]$ ping -c 10 206.108.255.2 PING 206.108.255.2 (206.108.255.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 206.108.255.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=7.13 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=6.98 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=6.94 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=7.05 ms --- 206.108.255.2 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 4 received, 60% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.942/7.028/7.135/0.093 ms [stahr@ctg-bastion ~]$ ping -c 10 206.108.255.52 PING 206.108.255.52 (206.108.255.52) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=14.0 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=14.5 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=14.0 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=13.6 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=13.0 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=12.7 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=12.2 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=11.7 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=11.2 ms 64 bytes from 206.108.255.52: icmp_seq=10 ttl=61 time=11.9 ms --- 206.108.255.52 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9002ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 11.289/12.913/14.502/1.052 ms [stahr@ctg-bastion ~]$ Any new policing policy applied today? I seem to be able to ping normally if I use my 206.108.255.x address, but not reliably from any other address: r-pop-min-1#ping 206.108.255.1 repeat 100 source gig0/0/5 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 206.108.255.1, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 206.108.255.26 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (100/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/1 ms r-pop-min-1#ping 206.108.255.2 repeat 100 source gig0/0/5 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 206.108.255.2, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 206.108.255.26 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (100/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/1 ms r-pop-min-1#ping 206.108.255.1 repeat 100 source loop1 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 206.108.255.1, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 205.173.182.62 ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 97 percent (97/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/1 ms r-pop-min-1#ping 206.108.255.2 repeat 100 source loop1 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 100, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 206.108.255.2, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 205.173.182.62 ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 97 percent (97/100), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/2 ms r-pop-min-1# -James

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Netflix Additional ports
by Jason Hanke 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Please assign and add the following ports to the Netflix LAG xe-0/2/0 xe-0/2/1 xe-0/2/2 Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Juniper Donation
by Jeremy Lumby 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

I have procured, and will be donating the final expansion module to the 4500 switch. This will max out the 4500 with 10G ports. I plan on installing it on 10/8/2015 around 1PM central time. Based upon the installation of the previous 4500 module, I do not expect any impact on traffic. Could someone who has the appropriate permissions please copy this to the announce list. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Upcoming MICE Meeting
by Shaun Carlson 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

All, We will NOT be having a meeting on 9/16 as originally planned. I will send out a new date in a few days. Please let me know if there is any preference for or against a specific date in October time frame. Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Are there any public bwctl servers within MICE?
by Tim Peiffer 31 Aug '15

31 Aug '15

Other than the University of Minnesota, are there any unregistered publicly reachable bwctl servers within MICE in specific, or MInnesota in general ? I would like to do speed measurement across CenturyLink DSL, Comcast Cable and a few other residential networks. Tim Peiffer -- Tim Peiffer Network Support Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota/NorthernLights GigaPOP +1 612 626-7884 (desk)

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PSA: Level3/TWTC
by Mike Horwath 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

Nice outage: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2015-August/078610.html eewps! Affecting people I know and going on 4 hours long. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

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Level3?
by Doug McIntyre 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

Does anybody buy Level3 transit in the Minneapolis area? We're looking for certain paths out of them that have been hotpoints in the past, so looking to run some traceroutes through their transit in Minneapolis to a few points. Thanks! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

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