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Informational Session Today
by Jason Hanke March 23, 2016

March 23, 2016

I will be in the Cologix cafeteria from 2 PM to 3 PM to answer any MICE questions or to assist new members in getting their connections up. This is intended for peering newbies or other interested parties. MICE UG meeting to follow at 3 PM. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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UG 19 Agenda and Dial-in Information
by Shaun Carlson March 23, 2016

March 23, 2016

All, Here is the dial-in information and the agenda is attached. Meeting URL: Meeting Number:195 035 335 Host Key:159301 Audio Connection: - United States of AmericaUS TOLL:+1-415-655-0001 s *Shaun Carlson*Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Microphone
by Jason Hanke March 23, 2016

March 23, 2016

We need a microphone for the MICE UG meeting today at 3. Can anyone help? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Email issues
by Frank Bulk March 22, 2016

March 22, 2016

Anyone else seeing email delayed sending to the Thomson-Reuter data center in Eagan, MN? We see email queued up for several domains that TR hosts, we see 70 to 85% TCP port 25 "packet" loss. The MX records for all those law/accounting sites point to 167.68.16.17 and 167.68.17.17. There is some delivery, but mostly not. Regards, Frank

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UG 19 Meeting Announcement
by Shaun Carlson March 21, 2016

March 21, 2016

All, I apologize for the late notice on this. That's 100% on me as I've been traveling and didn't get it to you in a timely fashion. On Wednesday, March 23rd, we'll have an information session starting at 2pm at the 511 building, followed by our business meeting starting at 3 pm. I would ask that you encourage folks at MTA to attend the information session and that you attend yourself. This will be very informal and function as a general meet & greet to understand a little more about MICE and explore ways to connect to MICE if not already connected. So, bring friends. If you have any agenda items, please send them to me ASAP and I'll be sure to get them added into the agenda. Last, I have MICE lapel pins for any of you attending the MTA show! (see attached picture). Please catch up with me to get one or stop by the Arvig booth on the show floor. I have 100 of them available at this time. I'll also bring them to the meeting where you can feel free to pick one up and wear it at future shows. Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Please welcome CTC to MICE!
by Jason Hanke March 17, 2016

March 17, 2016

Name: CTC AS: 64227 IPv4: 206.108.255.129/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:FAE3::1/64 Port: CNS Switch port 5 Route Server and website please! Note: The connection request moved from the Main switch to the CNS Remote. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please welcome HBC to MICE
by Jason Hanke March 11, 2016

March 11, 2016

Name: HBC Port: xe-2/0/10 (Main Switch) IPv4: 206.108.255.55/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:39ec::1/64 ASN: 14828 Contact: jimk(a)hbci.com Route Servers and Website config please! Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE mentioned in ISE magazine in relation to Ohio-IX
by Frank Bulk March 7, 2016

March 7, 2016

For your interest: http://digital.isemag.com/mar2016/Default/7/0#&pageSet=7 Frank

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Please welcome UW-Madison!
by Jason Hanke March 4, 2016

March 4, 2016

Port (Main Switch)- xe-2/0/11 IPv4: 206.108.255.66/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:0c38::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)uwsys.net Route server and website please! Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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CloudFlare traffic drop
by David Farmer March 3, 2016

March 3, 2016

Our traffic (AS57) to CloudFlare dropped significantly around midnight last night. I reset our BGP peering with them and traffic has recovered nicely back to what it should be at this time of night. I mentioning it here, in case something similar happened to anyone else, and you might want to poke your BGP session with them. Later. -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================

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Emergent 10G upgrade
by Jason Hanke Feb. 4, 2016

Feb. 4, 2016

Emergent Networks is upgrading their existing 1G port to 10G. The new port assignment is xe-2/0/12, IP information will remain the same. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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NANOG
by Jason Hanke Jan. 27, 2016

Jan. 27, 2016

Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE referenced in CF blog
by Frank Bulk Jan. 24, 2016

Jan. 24, 2016

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-launches-new-data-centers-in-oslo-an… Enjoy

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NO Meeting this week; Next meeting in March after MTA
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 23, 2016

Jan. 23, 2016

All, We don't really have much for the Agenda this time and some logistical problems with getting everything together. So, we've decided to cancel this meeting and we'll meet at the end of March as previously planned, immediately following MTA. I'll send out scheduling and updates next week and put out the call for agenda items. Please let me know if you have any questions or business we need to address! Thanks! S Shaun Carlson Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346.8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Akamai (20940) < > MICE IXP Peering Status
by Hannigan, Martin Jan. 13, 2016

Jan. 13, 2016

All, We seem to have had a glitch; we’re in the process of upgrading our presence and for some reason our peering was impacted. That was not expected. We’re working to restore it, but it may take more time. When we have a better idea of what it will take we’ll update you all. Questions, concerns to peering@ or marty@. Thanks, -M< (AS 20940, AS 32787)

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MICE Switch Upgrade
by Anthony Anderberg Dec. 15, 2015

Dec. 15, 2015

We're planning to insert the new Juniper Switch into the MICE stack next Tuesday morning (12/15/2015) at 5:00am CST. We don't expect any downtime from this event, the change should take 10-15 minutes and I'll send out a note when its finished. I'll need someone to cross-post this to MICE-Announce. Let me know if you have any problems or concerns: 320-583-9604 Cheers, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net>

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Upgraded Jaguar 10G Port
by Jason Hanke Dec. 9, 2015

Dec. 9, 2015

Please allocate xe-0/1/2 on the Main EX4500 to Jaguar Communications. IP information will remain the same. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Peering With Apple
by Ben Wiechman Dec. 2, 2015

Dec. 2, 2015

Does anyone have a peering contact for Apple? We've sent a number of requests to the address listed on peeringdb.com and haven't received a response.

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BGP communities on Route Servers
by Andrew Hoyos Nov. 30, 2015

Nov. 30, 2015

Hi folks, Some time ago, I recall a discussion and/or email thread about BGP action communities on the route servers (i.e.: don’t advertise to certain peers, prepends, etc). Are these in place, and if so, documented anywhere? If not, could I volunteer some cycles to get in place? I looked through the archives a bit, and poked on the website, but didn’t see anything. Thanks, Andrew — Andrew Hoyos Hoyos Consulting LLC ofc: +1 608 616 9950 andrew(a)hoyosconsulting.com http://www.hoyosconsulting.com

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VM donation- change control/graph data backup
by Andrew Hoyos Nov. 26, 2015

Nov. 26, 2015

Hi folks, One of the things that was discussed in the meeting yesterday as change control and config backups. Perhaps along those same lines, we should think about also backing up the graph data somewhere. I’m not sure where any of this data physically lives right now, but perhaps it would make sense to put somewhere *other* than the 511 bldg. I’d like to offer up a VM donation located in Madison, WI to at least run RANCID to grab config backups of the IX switches, as well as a backup target for any data (graphs, route-server config, etc). Effort involved should be minimal, but we’d happily take point on getting RANCID set up and configured as well, and sending diffs to the technical committee, as well as whomever else might see value in seeing config changes happen (perhaps a list?) Let me know, and we’ll make it happen. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

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NorthernLights GigaPoP maintenance 11/22 8 am
by Colin Murphy Nov. 20, 2015

Nov. 20, 2015

Hello, Sending out a heads up that the NorthernLights GigaPoP/University of Minnesota connection to MICE will be down for maintenance this Sunday from 8 am to 9 am. I will be relocating our two 10 gig links to MICE to a new router. If there are any questions or issues please let me know. Thanks, Colin Murphy Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota NorthernLights GigaPoP Desk: 612-626-0870

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Website Version Control
by Richard Laager Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

I've put the website code here for now: https://github.com/rlaager/mice-website Once we get non-profit status, I should be able to get a free github "organization" account for MICE. That would be more correct. -- Richard

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Member SLA's
by Jamison Masters Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

A discussion during the meeting today surrounded a third party maintenance organization, "the SLA vendor," that would accept payment from "Behemoth, Inc." to fulfill Behemoth's SLA (24x7 support, MTTR, etc...). It is established, and I agree that the SLA relationship occurs exclusively between Behemoth and the SLA vendor, and that Behemoth has no higher precedence on the exchange than anyone else. Behemoth is just another port on the switch. However, the SLA vendor would require management access to the IXP equipment to support its SLA, and that is where my concern is. If the SLA vendor is under contract to make Behemoth happy, they may choose to make configuration changes that prioritize their SLA agreement without consideration for the other members in the exchange. e.g., "What if I shut these other ports down to see if it fixes Behemoth's problem?" or, "We just brought on a new MICE member today. Maybe they screwed something up. I'll shut their session down just to see if it affected Behemoth..." We need to thoroughly trust the SLA vendor. What about rights and responsibilities? What penalties will the SLA vendor face if they mangle something for the sake of their contract with Behemoth, Inc., regardless if it nefarious or not? The meeting moved on to change management, an appropriate segue. Jamison Masters Partner / CIO VERUS Corporation 763-354-2204 jamison(a)veruscorp.com

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MICE Fees Nay Fundraising
by Justin Krejci Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

In an effort to not extend the UG discussion further on the "how to get MICE some money" topic today, and as specifically directed by the board, I am posting this idea to the mail list. Given the suggestion of caution that MICE should use when discussing the process of raising funds, I propose the traditional method various associations use of voluntary/charitable donations. The "how much do you feel you and the community benefits from the existence and success of MICE?" approach. Then the little flyer cards with the check boxes next to various suggested dollar amounts is what comes to mind. (hypothetical example) [ ] - $100 / month [ ] - $250 / month [ ] - $500 / month [ ] - $1000 / month [ ] - $_____ / month [ ] - $_____ / one-time MICE could even make note of donor levels if we wanted to get fancy like at all the trade shows: platinum sponsors, gold, silver, tin, plastic, etc. This could be an opt-in choice for donating members if they want to get a little sponsor reference to their website a la CentOS mirros (https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/) Yes, there are logistical issues that would need to be worked out: someone or something to generate payable invoices, the completion of MICE's non-profit status, someone to receive/process payments to MICE, etc. Given the collective knowledge and capabilities of all of the members involved, I don't think any such hurdles are insurmountable. I believe some/many organizations would be willing to make or keep on making financial contributions, I know US Internet fits this category. I wonder how comfortable organizations that are against forced payment for MICE membership would be to contribute voluntarily to MICE in such a fashion. This would at least provide a way to start building some reliable capital vs the ad hoc method of "hey we need to pay the lawyer, can everyone pitch in?" method. I think it would be better to have the funds when needed than to ask for the funds when needed. In any case, I hope to least get the ball rolling on the general topic of funding MICE. Thoughts? Comments? Feedback?

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Posting MICE Meeting Materials
by Justin Krejci Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

I have observed other organizations successfully utilize their website for tracking and posting meeting agendas and meeting meetings. A full blown CMS with revisions/history or a simple flat list or table of URLs can work very well. I suggest something similar be considered for MICE either as a replacement of email or as complement to email. Having a central location makes it consistent and straight forward to retrieve any desired document, current or past. This becomes even more relevant to those that are more recently joining MICE who did not receive the previous emails and so have to dig scrape through mailing list archives if they wish to review and understand the history of MICE. I personally also like that it provides a subtle jab against SMTP from subjugating all of our file transfer methods.

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