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UG21 Minutes and Attendance Notes
by anthonyanderberg＠nu-telecom.net Nov. 8, 2016

Nov. 8, 2016

My minutes and attendance log from our last UG meeting are attached. Cheers, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net>

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Packet loss issue update
by Jason Hanke Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

Do we have an update on the minor packet loss issue after all the upgrades have been completed? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Cacti graph showing count of MICE peers and prefixes
by Frank Bulk Oct. 29, 2016

Oct. 29, 2016

The Cacti graph showing the number of MICE peers and prefixes has been blank since September 28 around 3 pm. Is there a way to get that back? Frank

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BGP with BFD support
by Doug McIntyre Oct. 27, 2016

Oct. 27, 2016

We had been testing BFD support for BGP in the last few days, and I specificly watched it during the maintenance last night. I currently have route server 1 configured for passive BFD for a couple members, and that has been working just fine as far as I can tell for myself. I'm ready to open it up to any member that wants to test, just let me know your ASN and that you want passive BFD setup, and I can get that going on route-server 1. I'll do IPv4 and IPv6 sessions both. I assume everybody wants more of a gradual test. Otherwise I could enable it on route-server 2 as well. Finally, since this is a passive setting until triggered.. Should this get applied for every member by default? As long as the member side doesn't trigger it, it sits dormant. I could see that being part of the default template rollout for everybody, as well as every member retroactively, so it is totally controlled by what the member wants to do. If they want it, they do it. If they don't care to, it just sits passive not doing it. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

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Peering with research orgs
by Frank Bulk Oct. 27, 2016

Oct. 27, 2016

Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc. Frank

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Re: BFD support on BGP sessions
by Andrew Hoyos Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >> Sure, feel free to enable on the v6 sessions facing 53597, and I can >> fire up on this side and see if it works. > > Sure, I've added that to your IPv6 neighbor area. Looks as expected here. Thanks for getting this set up on rs1. hoyosa(a)er1.511.msp> show bfd session | match d1af 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Up xe-0/0/0.0 1.500 0.500 3 2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Down xe-0/0/0.0 0.000 2.000 3 Maybe let buck for a few days and we can confirm no issues on either side? -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

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Please welcome Fastly to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Name: Fastly, Inc ASN: 54113 IPv4: 206.108.255.72/24 IPv4: 206.108.255.73/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d361::1/64 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d361::2/64 Ports: Main Switch xe-2/0/25, xe-2/0/26 (NO LAG) Contact: peering(a)fastly.com Route Server and website please, I'm checking on BFD support. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please Welcome Unggoy Broadband to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Name: Unggoy Broadband LLC ASN: 393846 IPv4: 206.108.255.41/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:0276::1/64 BFD: Available Contact: support(a)unggoy.net Route Servers: Yes Port: Main Switch xe-2/0/7 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Donation Thank You
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Please thank Hoyos Consulting for a $2100 Paypal donation this morning! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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NebraskaLink LAG Migration
by Jason Hanke Oct. 24, 2016

Oct. 24, 2016

Nebraskalink is adding a second 10G to their MICE connection. The additional port is xe-0/0/4 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please welcome Amazon to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 21, 2016

Oct. 21, 2016

Name: Amazon Ports: Main Switch xe-2/0/18, xe-2/0/19 [LAG12] ASN: 16509 IPv4: 206.108.255.111/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:407d::1/64 Amazon will be doing Bilateral peering ONLY. No route-server configuration. Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Email for Peering with Amazon
by Levi Pederson Oct. 21, 2016

Oct. 21, 2016

All, Who is the primary contact to setup peering with Amazon. Thank you, *Levi Pederson* Mankato Networks LLC cell | 612.481.0769 work | 612.787.7392 levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net

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SIX Lowers Fees
by Justin Krejci Oct. 18, 2016

Oct. 18, 2016

I feel SIX is like a big brother that MICE looks up to so I would like to point out that SIX is lowering their port fees due to their success of membership growth. What a good problem, we're taking in so much money we'd like to drop our fees significantly. https://www.seattleix.net/pr20160930 As the MICE fee structure is still not implemented or even decided yet, I'd like to hit the beehive a little and see if there is any progress to that end. I am sure that MICE as a non non-profit could still take in money and then also spend that money without much challenge to avoid any serious taxation concerns, assuming the non-profit work continues to stall for more months or years (unless someone wants to share good news in this regard). Can the board set a goal or target for us to strive towards as an organization? Maybe we need a little tyranny to get things going in this regard? This can has been kicked down the road so many times, it's not even recognizable as a can anymore. :) Food for thought.

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MICE In the News
by Charles Monson Oct. 12, 2016

Oct. 12, 2016

I was made aware Yahoo Finance posted a brief article yesterday about MICE. I didn't see it posted to the list yet, but figured a few people may be interested in reading it. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/midwest-internet-cooperative-exchange-mice-13… Charles

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DocuMNtray
by David Farmer Oct. 11, 2016

Oct. 11, 2016

This is a great DocuMNtray about the Minnesota Tech Industry both historic and where it going in the future. http://www.documntary.com/ We should have a like to this on the MICE page. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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Minutes
by Richard Laager Oct. 10, 2016

Oct. 10, 2016

Did anyone take minutes at the last user group meeting? If so, can I get a copy of the draft minutes for the website? -- Richard

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BFD support on BGP sessions
by Chris Wopat Oct. 7, 2016

Oct. 7, 2016

Topical to today's issues, WiscNet (and likely others) actively utilize BFD on EBGP peering sessions across peering fabric on various IX's where possible. This helps by detecting issues across layer2 paths without having to wait for the BGP hold time to expire. If anyone would like to enable BFD on our direct sessions, please reach out to us at peering(a)wiscnet.net, or to me directly. We use minimum-interval 500, multiplier 3 at various IX's with little issue. Cheers, -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat(a)wiscnet.net 608-210-3965

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EX4200 (1G Switch) Packet Loss -> 10G Participants
by Matthew Beckwell Oct. 5, 2016

Oct. 5, 2016

Greetings, I wanted to see if anyone here has any thoughts on a small amount (<1%) of packet loss I've been trying to chase down, specific to the MICE EX4200 switch. Aitech/AS13746 has a 1G copper port on the EX4200 switch. It seems that we're seeing a small amount of outbound packet loss (1G to 10G) going participants outside of the EX4200 switch. I might expect this going from 10G to 1G (inbound for us), but it's the opposite where we see the problem: 1G to 10G participants. Doug at ipHouse (ge-1/0/3 on the EX4200) fired up iperf and we did some testing. They're in the same situation: Loss leaving the EX4200. Specifically, I was testing over to US Internet (xe-0/0/14) but seeing it via Onvoy as well. The iperf test I was running was UDP, bandwidth of 69000, and packet size of 172, running in both directions. Essentially--emulating a G.711 SIP call (which is how I noticed the loss). I tested with no loss in both directions within the EX4200. Doug mentioned: >I pulled the VC chassis stats, but it has nothing for drops or re-transmits for it. Maybe some of our Juniper-centric members have suggestions? It's quite possible it's always been like this-- the loss is small enough that's managed to evade monitoring. I suspect everyone on the EX4200 is affected. ~Matthew

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Maintenance Complete
by Jeremy Lumby Oct. 5, 2016

Oct. 5, 2016

I have completed the maintenance of moving everyone off of the old 4200, and onto the new one. Please let me know if you have any issues, I will be staying around 511 for a little while in the event that you do. I pinged each interface IP as I moved it to verify it pinged, then dropped, and then picked back up again once it was in the new switch. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Hurricane and route servers
by Reid Fishler Oct. 4, 2016

Oct. 4, 2016

Hurricane will begin to send routes to the route servers within the next few days. Approximately 40k routes will be sent, so watch your filters! Happy peering! Reid

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1G Fiber Port Moves
by Jason Hanke Sept. 30, 2016

Sept. 30, 2016

The following ports will be moved from the existing EX4200-24T to the EX4550 from ge-1/1/0 to ge-2/0/28 --- 5 Nines 1G SFP from ge-1/1/1 to ge-2/0/29 --- ClaimLynx 1G SFP from ge-1/1/2 to ge-2/0/30 --- CDW Berbee 1G SFP from ge-1/1/3 to ge-2/0/31 --- Velocity Telephone 1G SFP The move is necessary to facilitate breaking the EX4200 out of the Virtual Chassis configuration. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Election
by Reid Fishler Sept. 30, 2016

Sept. 30, 2016

The winner of today's election is Richard Laager. We thank all candidates, and we thank Shaun for his service! Reid and Jay

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What's happening with MICE bandwidth this evening?
by Frank Bulk Sept. 28, 2016

Sept. 28, 2016

Saw our own MICE-facing traffic drop down, and I see MICE's own aggregate is the same. [cid:image004.jpg@01D2190B.83B53030] [cid:image003.png@01D2190B.83A5EDF0] Frank

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Corrected Agenda (time is 3 pm)
by Shaun Carlson Sept. 27, 2016

Sept. 27, 2016

Please see attached. s *Shaun Carlson*Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Conference Bridge Info
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 27, 2016

Sept. 27, 2016

For today's meeting, we will have a simple audio only conference bridge for remote participants. 952-562-5400 Pin: 6423 Since it is a very basic bridge, I would encourage remote participants to keep their line muted until they are ready to talk, to reduce background noise.

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