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Fee Poll results
by Jason Hanke Nov. 28, 2016

Nov. 28, 2016

Here are the results from the over the weekend Fee poll: Recurring (Annual or Monthly Fees) 12 votes One time Fees 8 votes Optional, but invoiced to begin with 3 votes No Fees 1 vote -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Port Fees Poll
by Jason Hanke Nov. 25, 2016

Nov. 25, 2016

I've posted a Facebook poll looking for member input on port fees: https://www.facebook.com/events/179450035795693/permalink/197514153989281/ Also, please rsvp on the facebook event. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MN VoIP Remote Switch Request
by Richard Laager Nov. 22, 2016

Nov. 22, 2016

The board has received a request for a new remote switch. In accordance with our procedures, I'm bringing this to the community for discussion. After this, the board will vote on the proposal. The switch would be operated by MN VoIP. It would be located in Cologix's suite 100 in the 511 Building. Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I would promise to notify any members connecting to the switch that > they are not on the main switch, upgrade my link to the main MICE > switch if the traffic goes above 66% and impose MAC, and BDPU limits > on all member facing ports connecting to the remote switch. To get > started I would upgrade to a 10G single port LAG The switch may not be dedicated to MICE. As such, the MICE technical committee may not have configuration access to the switch. SNMP access (for graphing individual ports) also may not be available, depending on build out. -- Richard

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20G hotter than normal
by Jason Hanke Nov. 18, 2016

Nov. 18, 2016

Bad weather must be good for MICE. :) Could be a big night. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Great Plains additional 10G port
by Jason Hanke Nov. 18, 2016

Nov. 18, 2016

Please allocate Great Plains Communications xe-2/0/19. They will also need to convert to a LAG configuration with their existing port. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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IX Denver Event
by Jason Hanke Nov. 16, 2016

Nov. 16, 2016

IX Denver is having a social December 5th. If you're in the Denver area it'd be a great place to talk peering. Event info here: https://www.facebook.com/events/332369997122169/ -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Additional 10G port for GigaPop
by Jason Hanke Nov. 16, 2016

Nov. 16, 2016

I have allocated xe-2/0/27 to be added to the GigaPop LAG (ae0). Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE Port Runout
by Jason Hanke Nov. 16, 2016

Nov. 16, 2016

We are starting to run low on ports on the main switch. If you or your company cares deeply about the quality of internet this would be a great time to consider a donation of $ or gear. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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MICE Equipment Diagram
by Mike Johnston Nov. 15, 2016

Nov. 15, 2016

Attached is a diagram that I have have built depicting the MICE equipment and the remote switches. I have included a few notes provided by Jeremy. I have also included port and LAG descriptors, which I was able to obtain from list archives, the website, and cacti. This diagram is mostly intended to be a visual aid when having technical discussion. Diagramming individual participants was not included in the scope of this project. I am interested in constructive feedback, specifically: 1) Is it accurate? Please elaborate if not. 2) Is anything missing that is important to note? For example, is it important to note the management interfaces of the Route Servers? Obviously, we can only put so much information on a single sheet of paper. 3) Is anything not completely obvious? If not, then I need better notes, a key/legend, etc.. Thanks, Mike Johnston Wikstrom Telephone Company

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MRS2 go down?
by Frank Bulk Nov. 15, 2016

Nov. 15, 2016

We saw the MICE route server #2 go down around 1:47 pm? Frank

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Traffic Drop
by Jeremy Lumby Nov. 10, 2016

Nov. 10, 2016

I noticed a huge drop in MICE traffic, and was wondering if there was a fiber cut somewhere, or some other underlying reason for the drop off.

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UG21 Minutes and Attendance Notes
by anthonyanderberg＠nu-telecom.net Nov. 8, 2016

Nov. 8, 2016

My minutes and attendance log from our last UG meeting are attached. Cheers, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net>

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Packet loss issue update
by Jason Hanke Oct. 31, 2016

Oct. 31, 2016

Do we have an update on the minor packet loss issue after all the upgrades have been completed? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Cacti graph showing count of MICE peers and prefixes
by Frank Bulk Oct. 29, 2016

Oct. 29, 2016

The Cacti graph showing the number of MICE peers and prefixes has been blank since September 28 around 3 pm. Is there a way to get that back? Frank

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BGP with BFD support
by Doug McIntyre Oct. 27, 2016

Oct. 27, 2016

We had been testing BFD support for BGP in the last few days, and I specificly watched it during the maintenance last night. I currently have route server 1 configured for passive BFD for a couple members, and that has been working just fine as far as I can tell for myself. I'm ready to open it up to any member that wants to test, just let me know your ASN and that you want passive BFD setup, and I can get that going on route-server 1. I'll do IPv4 and IPv6 sessions both. I assume everybody wants more of a gradual test. Otherwise I could enable it on route-server 2 as well. Finally, since this is a passive setting until triggered.. Should this get applied for every member by default? As long as the member side doesn't trigger it, it sits dormant. I could see that being part of the default template rollout for everybody, as well as every member retroactively, so it is totally controlled by what the member wants to do. If they want it, they do it. If they don't care to, it just sits passive not doing it. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

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Peering with research orgs
by Frank Bulk Oct. 27, 2016

Oct. 27, 2016

Does MICE have a policy regarding peering its router reflectors with research/data gathering orgs like Cymru, Dyn, Norse, ThousandEyes, QRator, etc. Frank

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Re: BFD support on BGP sessions
by Andrew Hoyos Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >> Sure, feel free to enable on the v6 sessions facing 53597, and I can >> fire up on this side and see if it works. > > Sure, I've added that to your IPv6 neighbor area. Looks as expected here. Thanks for getting this set up on rs1. hoyosa(a)er1.511.msp> show bfd session | match d1af 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1 Up xe-0/0/0.0 1.500 0.500 3 2001:504:27::d1af:0:2 Down xe-0/0/0.0 0.000 2.000 3 Maybe let buck for a few days and we can confirm no issues on either side? -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

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Please welcome Fastly to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Name: Fastly, Inc ASN: 54113 IPv4: 206.108.255.72/24 IPv4: 206.108.255.73/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d361::1/64 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d361::2/64 Ports: Main Switch xe-2/0/25, xe-2/0/26 (NO LAG) Contact: peering(a)fastly.com Route Server and website please, I'm checking on BFD support. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please Welcome Unggoy Broadband to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Name: Unggoy Broadband LLC ASN: 393846 IPv4: 206.108.255.41/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:0276::1/64 BFD: Available Contact: support(a)unggoy.net Route Servers: Yes Port: Main Switch xe-2/0/7 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Donation Thank You
by Jason Hanke Oct. 25, 2016

Oct. 25, 2016

Please thank Hoyos Consulting for a $2100 Paypal donation this morning! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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NebraskaLink LAG Migration
by Jason Hanke Oct. 24, 2016

Oct. 24, 2016

Nebraskalink is adding a second 10G to their MICE connection. The additional port is xe-0/0/4 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Please welcome Amazon to MICE!
by Jason Hanke Oct. 21, 2016

Oct. 21, 2016

Name: Amazon Ports: Main Switch xe-2/0/18, xe-2/0/19 [LAG12] ASN: 16509 IPv4: 206.108.255.111/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:407d::1/64 Amazon will be doing Bilateral peering ONLY. No route-server configuration. Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

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Email for Peering with Amazon
by Levi Pederson Oct. 21, 2016

Oct. 21, 2016

All, Who is the primary contact to setup peering with Amazon. Thank you, *Levi Pederson* Mankato Networks LLC cell | 612.481.0769 work | 612.787.7392 levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net

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SIX Lowers Fees
by Justin Krejci Oct. 18, 2016

Oct. 18, 2016

I feel SIX is like a big brother that MICE looks up to so I would like to point out that SIX is lowering their port fees due to their success of membership growth. What a good problem, we're taking in so much money we'd like to drop our fees significantly. https://www.seattleix.net/pr20160930 As the MICE fee structure is still not implemented or even decided yet, I'd like to hit the beehive a little and see if there is any progress to that end. I am sure that MICE as a non non-profit could still take in money and then also spend that money without much challenge to avoid any serious taxation concerns, assuming the non-profit work continues to stall for more months or years (unless someone wants to share good news in this regard). Can the board set a goal or target for us to strive towards as an organization? Maybe we need a little tyranny to get things going in this regard? This can has been kicked down the road so many times, it's not even recognizable as a can anymore. :) Food for thought.

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MICE In the News
by Charles Monson Oct. 12, 2016

Oct. 12, 2016

I was made aware Yahoo Finance posted a brief article yesterday about MICE. I didn't see it posted to the list yet, but figured a few people may be interested in reading it. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/midwest-internet-cooperative-exchange-mice-13… Charles

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