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Nuvera Port Upgrade
by Jay Hanke 20 Dec '19

20 Dec '19

Nuvera will be upgrading to 2x10G LAG on new ports and then removing their existing port. The new port assignments are (Main Switch) Ethernet 4/28 Ethernet 5/28 This port will be vacated Ethernet 4/15 Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE MAC Address Limit
by Richard Laager 14 Dec '19

14 Dec '19

We have discussed this a bit in the past, and this came up at the last UG. I'm looking for feedback from the group before formally proposing this to the board for a vote. I first brought this up to the technical committee, CCing the board. I have heard no objections. Jeremy is "in favor of it 100%". Based on our quick conversation after the UG, I _think_ Anthony is in favor as well; we both made notes to follow up on this. ----- I am proposing that MICE change its MAC address limit from 5 MACs per port to 1 MAC per port. 1 MAC address is enough for normal scenarios and this would further limit the potential for problems on the fabric. This restriction is one that SIX and AMS-IX both have, with the latter being known for their excellent configuration guide for participants: https://www.ams-ix.net/ams/documentation/config-guide To be clear, this is still only for end ports, not ports facing remote switches, of course. The remote switches are responsible for enforcing the current MAC limit, and would be responsible for changing those settings as described here. If someone is swapping their MICE-facing router, the resulting port flap on the MICE/remote switch will clear the limit anyway, if they are directly connected. If they are unable to flap the port (e.g. because they have someone else's layer 2 gear in the middle), they will have to either work with that carrier or their switch operator (MICE/remote) to flap the port. This is a non-zero burden, but I think it's pretty minimal in practice. Additionally, if someone plans to make an equipment swap, we would increase the limit in advance, temporarily, upon request. For reference, SIX goes further and locks you to a particular MAC address in an ACL, so you have to contact them to change your MAC. I am not proposing that. Still, I've been through that a couple of times, and even that isn't really too big of a deal. So I don't think the change to a limit of 1 MAC at MICE will be particularly onerous. There are a couple of participants who have two IP address sets (one IPv4 and one IPv6) on the same port. For those ports, the limit obviously must be at least 2 MACs, but I propose 3 MACs as the limit. If they're using two IPs, they probably are doing so to get some redundancy out of it. For this particular use case, needing to flap the port defeats that redundancy goal, as it breaks the other router. Having a MAC limit of 3 would allow them to swap a device without needing to flap the port. We would grandfather these setups until they are looking for a port-type upgrade; at that point they would need to get to one IP address set per port (by splitting into two ports or reducing to one IP address set) or request an exception as outlined below. The exception process would allow us to better evaluate this use case at that time. There are some members who have multiple MACs showing up now, despite using only one device. For those, I am proposing we set the MAC limit to however many MACs are currently showing up on their port. That is, they would be grandfathered at their current situation for now. At the time of this change, we would encourage them to investigate and fix the multiple MACs issue at their leisure. In the future, if they are doing a equipment swap (especially like-for-like), we would again encourage them to address it, but would otherwise leave their higher limit in place. If they do a port-type upgrade, we would not bring the grandfathering over. If they needed, they could ask for an official exception at that time. There may be cases where people cannot reasonably fix their routers to use only 1 MAC, other scenarios I haven't considered, or things that may come up in the future. For that reason, I think we should allow for the possibility of exceptions upon request to the board. In practice, I would expect the board would confer with the technical committee and/or the technical committee would be bringing these to the board anyway. The goal is to strike a reasonable balance between protecting the fabric without preventing networks from connecting. -- Richard

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NebraskaLink Port Move
by Jay Hanke 12 Dec '19

12 Dec '19

Nebraskalink is moving their connection from the Zayo remote switch to the main switch. All IP address/Contact information will remain the same. The new port assignment is Main Switch: Ethernet4/13 Welcome aboard again! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE graphs - gap from today?
by Andrew Hoyos 04 Dec '19

04 Dec '19

Hi folks, Looks like the Cacti graphs are showing a gap from this afternoon. Anyone know what happened? — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com <mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com>

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Internet Wether Report
by David Farmer 03 Dec '19

03 Dec '19

Anyone notice the somewhat impressive approximately 100G traffic spike on MICE just after 12 noon today, I'm told that is Halo for XBox One. https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1211738/Halo-Reach-Release-D… -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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Any MICE bottleneck for Google Stadia?
by Jon Westlund 02 Dec '19

02 Dec '19

I am "testing" Stadia...just to confirm what our customers will experience :) My Stadia stream is sourced from the 136.112.0.0/12 prefix. There is considerable lag/disconnects during gameplay...I have seen the reports of this being a widespread issue with the new platform, but wanted to confirm that there is no bottleneck with MICE connectivity to Google - 206.108.255.141 AS15169. Can we confirm there is no saturation of their uplinks? Has there been a noticeable spike since Friday when some users received their Stadia system? Thanks, JW

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HBC Port Augment/LAG conversion
by Jay Hanke 25 Nov '19

25 Nov '19

Ethernet4/11 has been allocated to HBC. Their existing port (e5/11) will need to be converted to a LAG and then e4/11 added into the group. Welcome aboard (again)! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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packet loss today
by James Urwiller 23 Nov '19

23 Nov '19

Greetings all, I have been noticing packet loss today similar to how it was a few weeks back before Zayo replaced a card. I know they had a fiber cut yesterday in Omaha south of where I hop on to get to the exchange, I was unaffected by that but today I just have a lot of packet loss. Anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300]

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Please Welcome PhirePhly Design to MICE!
by Jay Hanke 21 Nov '19

21 Nov '19

Name: PhirePhly Design Port: Ethernet 11 MN Voip Remote Switch ASN: 7034 IPv4: 206.108.255.152/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:1b7a::1/64 Peering Contact: kenneth(a)phirephly.design Route Servers- YES BFD: No Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Additional WIN 10G Port
by Jay Hanke 20 Nov '19

20 Nov '19

Port 4/43 on the main switch has been allocated to WIN. Please add this port to their existing LAG group. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE Limelight Upgrade/Route Server addition
by Jay Hanke 19 Nov '19

19 Nov '19

Limelight is moving from their existing 2x10G LAG to 1x100G LAG on main switch port 3/15/1. The existing 10G ports will be vacated. This move was competed this afternoon. Limelight is also adding an additional 100G port to the MN VoIP remote switch with an additional IP assignment. Name: Limelight (New additional) Port: MN VoIP Port 2 (100G Switch) ASN: 22882 IPv4: 206.108.255.151 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:5926::2 Limelight has also requested RS sessions for both of their IP assignments. The following Limelight IPs need RS sessions created or verified IPv4: 206.108.255.43 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:5926::1 Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Re: Google Issues?
by Jeff Dahna 19 Nov '19

19 Nov '19

Apparently it is a fiber cut on Level3 as per previous message.

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Google Issues?
by Nathan Beard 19 Nov '19

19 Nov '19

All, Google peering sessions via MICE have been down for nearly 8 hours at this point for multiple customers including Stellar Association. Is anybody aware of an issue? I don't recall seeing an update for any work being completed but it's possible that I missed something... *Nathan Beard* *7Sigma Systems, Inc.* Network Engineer (218) 820-7636 www.7sigma.com

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Re: Google
by Jeff Dahna 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

ETA= Estimated Time of Arrival. It is going to be awhile before it is restored. ETR= Estimated Time of Restoration

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Google
by Dean Bahls 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

Any word on what's going on at Google? I'm guessing someone had a bad day. Dean Dean Bahls Network Services Manager | Cooperative Network Services, LLC 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.346.3635 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com <mailto:dean.bahls@cooperative-networks.com>

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Please Welcome SBT to MICE!
by Jay Hanke 18 Nov '19

18 Nov '19

Name: SBT, Int Port: Ethernet 4 MNVoip Remote Switch ASN: 11255 IPv4: 206.108.255.149/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2bf7::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)sbt.net Route Servers- YES BFD: YES Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Re: random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone?
by Jeremy Lumby 07 Nov '19

07 Nov '19

I got the same update. I did see loss last night at Peak utilization, however it was nowhere near as bad as the previous night. I am also waiting on notification for them to swap the cards in the cyan gear Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 Direct 612-392-6814 EFax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com -------- Original message -------- From: James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)TURNKEY-TELECOM.COM> Date: 11/5/19 9:26 AM (GMT-06:00) To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? _____ >From : James Urwiller [james.urwiller(a)TURNKEY-TELECOM.COM] To : MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] Date : Tuesday, November 5 2019 09:26:57 Last ticket I received they traced out some other customers path (not mine) and told me there was no common path, but they wanted to swap a cyan transport card anyway, and would schedule the maintenance “soon” However I think its better-ish now?? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com stealth300 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Huffman Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 09:17 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? We also opened up a case with Zayo however they put a loopback on the circuit and did not see any errors apparently. Are you all still seeing loss? If so, what did Zayo come up with? Thanks in advance, Justin From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 11:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. The last few updates I had were that they dispatched a tech to Belle Plaine, then they moved the ticket back to the backbone group who engaged the hardware vendor. I still do not have an ETR, however yesterday I did see a little bit of loss at 8AM, however it got much worse as the traffic to MICE increased in the evening. Currently I am seeing loss, however it is much less than Sunday evening. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 10:43 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? Only updates I have on my ticket is that a tech is investigating.. it has certainly been sporadic for us. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com stealth300 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Huffman Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:30 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? We have had a few customers complain about packet loss to google.com today as well and was able to see packet loss from one of our routers up to 511 building. However, I don’t see packet loss anymore, but maybe it is really intermittent. Did you hear any update from Zayo? Justin Long Lines Broadband From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 8:36 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. I am seeing it on the Zayo path between Belle Plaine, and Minneapolis. I have a ticket open since yesterday afternoon, and they appear to be struggling to nail it down. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 8:33 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone? Greetings all, Since yesterday afternoon I have been experiencing random packet loss to things that traceroute to the MICE exchange. It does not appear to be related to any particular participants path out from the exchange. Is anyone else seeing this? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com stealth300 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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random packet loss since yesterday afternoon anyone?
by James Urwiller 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Greetings all, Since yesterday afternoon I have been experiencing random packet loss to things that traceroute to the MICE exchange. It does not appear to be related to any particular participants path out from the exchange. Is anyone else seeing this? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300]

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Fwd: [arin-announce] Vote Now in the 2019 ARIN Board of Trustees, ARIN Advisory Council, and NRO NC Elections
by David Farmer 31 Oct '19

31 Oct '19

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Please welcome Omnitel to MICE!
by Jay Hanke 31 Oct '19

31 Oct '19

Name: Omnitel Communications Port: Ethernet 5 SFN Remote Switch ASN: 62886 IPv4: 206.108.255.148/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:f5a6::1/64 Peering Contact: it(a)omnitel.biz Route Servers- YES BFD: YES Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Traffic Requirements
by Jeremy Lumby 29 Oct '19

29 Oct '19

I am wondering if many MICE members have been denied peering with other networks on MICE because you do not meet their traffic level requirements. I have, and I am brainstorming some options. Let me know off list if you fall into this category, and if you want to explore a potential solution with me. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Please welcome Apple to MICE!
by Jay Hanke 25 Oct '19

25 Oct '19

Name: Apple Ports: Ethernet 3/14/1 (100G LAG #1), Ethernet 4/49/1 (100G LAG#2) ASN: 714 (LAG Group #1) IPv4: 206.108.255.146/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2ca::1/64 (LAG Group #2) IPv4: 206.108.255.147/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2ca::2/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)group.apple.com Route Servers: NO BFD: NO Please note: Ethernet 4/49/1 has been reclaimed from a member that failed to migrate and did not respond. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Re: Zayo to Omaha IX down
by Jeff Dahna 24 Oct '19

24 Oct '19

288 ct fiber damaged near Worthington, MN. Zayo ticket 0646hrs - Current Update: Crews are finishing boring on one end and should have the fiber tails in the trailer in about an hour. On the other side they have fiber tails in the trailer beginning to prep.

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Zayo to Omaha IX down
by Jeff Dahna 24 Oct '19

24 Oct '19

We lost our route to Omaha IX via Zayo around 2:04 PM CST. Got a ticket in with Zayo. Anyone else down to Omaha via Zayo? Jeff Dahna Windomnet

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Re: Zayo to Omaha IX down
by Justin Huffman 23 Oct '19

23 Oct '19

Our link from Sioux City to Minneapolis went down around 2:10 today. This is getting out of hand. I think we've experienced outages every other week for almost 2 months now along with the outage lasting 16+ hours. Does anyone have recommendations for diverse routes up to 511? Justin Long Lines Broadband

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