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Facebook DNS issues
by Jay Hanke Oct. 5, 2021

Oct. 5, 2021

Looks like Facebook is having large scale DNS issues. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Details for this weeks Meeting
by Travis Fincham Oct. 1, 2021

Oct. 1, 2021

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Microsoft peering at 511 - packet loss
by Fridlington, Anthony Oct. 1, 2021

Oct. 1, 2021

We seem to be having issues with both of our Microsoft peers at 511, but no others. Is anybody experiencing similar issues? 206.108.255.156 and 206.108.255.157. Thank you, Anthony Fridlington Network Manager Essentia Health Information Services | P240 532 E 1st St, Duluth, MN 55805 218-786-5360 | Anthony.Fridlington(a)EssentiaHealth.org

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Midco Upgrade 1x1x100G
by Jay Hanke Sept. 28, 2021

Sept. 28, 2021

Please allocate the following port to Midco. MICE MAIN :: Ethernet3/25/1 Port should be provisioned as a single member LAG group. This port was previously allocated to Midco and then converted to a 10G port. IP info will remain the same. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE UG39 Election Results
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net Sept. 23, 2021

Sept. 23, 2021

Congratulations to Reid Fishler, who was re-elected to the MICE Board of Directors yesterday for another 3 year term - we thank him for his ongoing service to the community. Since most members were joining remotely we did the election as a voice vote but I continued the tradition of recording everyone’s votes with tokens none-the-less. [A picture containing indoor, stuffed Description automatically generated] Cheers, anthony [signature_2070010193]

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Re: Quorum
by Kittel, Brady Sept. 21, 2021

Sept. 21, 2021

We (HCMC/HHS) support this as well with one suggestion/comment: Can we maintain a higher quorum requirement for specific actions that pertain to changing the makeup of the actual board or how it votes outside of an election if that isn't already in place? I'd hate to see the low member quorum be used against the MICE by a handful of orgs for the purposes of changing the nature of MICE. I don't have any concerns about that right now, but I've seen it happen in other non-profit orgs where a handful of members essentially took over the non-profit for their own commercial/personal benefit. ---- Brady Kittel Systems Architect - Server Team Hennepin County Medical Center 612-873-2150 Brady.Kittel(a)hcmed.org On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:00 AM Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: I support as well, for all the reasons others have mentioned. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Quorum I support this proposal as well. If we get to the point where we are in another lockdown, or where people don't want to travel, we will need this in force as well. All meetings will continue to be announced, but the board should not have to try to call people as the meeting starts to try to make sure the meeting will count (this has happened before). Reid On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:48 AM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net<mailto:jonathan@les.net>> wrote: On Mon., 2021-09-20 12:13 a.m., Richard Laager wrote: I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less, are a quorum for the transaction of business. I support Richard's proposal. Not having quorum is a real governance problem, and if faced, it's a problem that the board and assembled members at the AGM would not be able to resolve. The only option would be to call a new meeting and hope for more attendees. 10 members seems sufficient to ensure there's reasonable oversight of business. And as Dean Bahls pointed out, nothing about this change would limit the ability of any member to participate. Thanks to Richard for the proposal. Jonathan Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET<http://les.net/> - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Quorum
by Richard Laager Sept. 21, 2021

Sept. 21, 2021

We've had the topic of quorum on the agenda a few times. At the last meeting, I said I thought our annual meeting would be a good time to take that up officially. I said I'd send a proposal to the list. To recap the concern: Our bylaws currently set the quorum at 10%. As we add members (which is great!), the required quorum increases proportionally. However, it seems we have approximately the same core group interested in governance. If we grow much more, we may be unable to meet the quorum requirement. We have already had a couple meetings where we had to wait for people to show up, or contact people to encourage them to join the call. The attendance numbers going back to the end of 2017 are: 11, 11, 10, 9*, 12, 12, 11, 16*, 11, 16, 15*, 15, 15 * Regular annual meeting with election. The current Bylaws and the Attendance information can be found at: http://micemn.net/resources.html <http://micemn.net/resources.html> As of the last meeting, our voting membership was 118, which puts quorum at 12 members. (Also, I understand that a merger has happened which would reduce most, if not all, of the previous attendance numbers by 1.) Counterargument: We haven't actually completely failed quorum yet. Counter-counter-argument: It's been close, and if it happens, then without a quorum, we can't fix the issue. We previously discussed the idea of setting a cap on the quorum. That is, it would be 10% or X, whichever is lower. This is consistent with other provisions in the bylaws (e.g. 3% or 50 members, whichever is less, can call a meeting if no meeting has occurred in 15 months). This seems like a great solution to me. I think 10 would be a good number. I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members_, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less,_ are a quorum for the transaction of business. Thoughts? -- Richard

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Corrected GPC Port Assignments
by Jay Hanke Sept. 21, 2021

Sept. 21, 2021

Great Plains is moving off the MAIN MICE switch and onto the MN VoIP 10G switch. The new ports will be: MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet31 MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet32 MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet33 -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Great Plains Additional Port
by Jay Hanke Sept. 21, 2021

Sept. 21, 2021

Please add port: MICE MAIN :: Ethernet4/23 To the existing Great Plains LAG group (Port Channel 13) -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MN VoIP extension switch uplink upgrade
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 19, 2021

Sept. 19, 2021

Minnesota VoIP has completed upgrading the link between their extension switches and the MICE core to 3x100G. The new link runs from 6/13/1 on the main switch to 27/1 on the MN VoIP extension. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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ImOn Upgrade
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 15, 2021

Sept. 15, 2021

ImOn has upgraded to 20G on the MN VoIP extension switch. Ports 29 & 30 in Portchannel 5 Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Limelight redundant connection
by Jeremy Lumby Sept. 10, 2021

Sept. 10, 2021

I just wanted to let everyone know that Limelight has completed their second connection to MICE that goes through the MN VoIP extension switch. They are fully operational now and ready for any bilateral peering requests on the additional ip addresses.Jeremy LumbyMinnesota VoIP9217 17th Ave SSuite 216Bloomington MN 55425Main 612-355-7740Direct 612-392-6814EFax 952-873-7425jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Akamai Port Addition
by Jay Hanke Sept. 4, 2021

Sept. 4, 2021

We've allocated the following port to be added to the existing Akamai Port Channel 19 MICE MAIN :: Ethernet6/12/1 This will bring Akamai to 500G total MICE bandwidth. 1x2x100G 1x3x100G This email will serve as your LOA/CFA. Cologix has been copied on this email. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Hiawatha (AS14828) LAG Group Augment
by Jay Hanke Sept. 3, 2021

Sept. 3, 2021

Please add the following 10G port to the existing Hiawatha LAG group: Ethernet4/41 This will bring the LAG to 1x3x10G. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Please Welcome NANOG to MICE!
by Jay Hanke Sept. 2, 2021

Sept. 2, 2021

Name: NANOG Switch: MICE MAIN Port: Ethernet3/27/1 ASN: 19320 IPv4: 206.108.255.182/24 <http://206.108.255.181/24> IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:4b78::1 Peering Contact: peering(a)nanog.org Route Servers- Yes BFD: NO -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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NANOG in Minneapolis
by Jay Hanke Aug. 31, 2021

Aug. 31, 2021

Signup is open for NANOG in Minneapolis. This is an excellent event and the NANOG meetings have played a large role in getting MICE off the ground. In fact, the first "MICE" meeting was held in a BBQ joint at NANOG in Austin, TX between Steve Howard and myself. The event is engineering and peering focused and less "commercial" than most of the other conferences. https://www.nanog.org/events/future/ -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE UG39 and Call for Nominations
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net Aug. 30, 2021

Aug. 30, 2021

MICE User Group Meeting 39 will be held September 22nd at 3pm at the UofM’s IT Building: 2218 University Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414. At that time we will be holding an election for the 3 year Board of Directors position currently held by Reid Fishler. I will take nominations for that position from now until 5pm on September 10th. Voting on the 22nd can be done in person or by publicly appointed proxy. Thanks everyone, anthony

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MICE Port Congestion
by Jay Hanke Aug. 26, 2021

Aug. 26, 2021

With all the recent CDN upgrades, we are seeing a number of member ports congested to the point of severe packet loss for hours. Please check your traffic levels. If you need help with upgrade options we're happy to assist. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Re: Omaha-Chicago Issues
by Jeremy Lumby Aug. 25, 2021

Aug. 25, 2021

We have been noticing horrible YouTube performance here Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 Direct 612-392-6814 EFax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com -------- Original message -------- From: Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO> Date: 8/24/21 7:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Omaha-Chicago Issues _____ >From : Jay Hanke [jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO] To : MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] Date : Tuesday, August 24 2021 19:52:45 There's something affecting the long-haul between Omaha and Chicago causing a surge in MICE traffic from the carriers in the area. If your company has maintenance scheduled tonight it may be good to put that off. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Omaha-Chicago Issues
by Jay Hanke Aug. 25, 2021

Aug. 25, 2021

There's something affecting the long-haul between Omaha and Chicago causing a surge in MICE traffic from the carriers in the area. If your company has maintenance scheduled tonight it may be good to put that off. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Arvig Upgrade to 1x2x100G
by Jay Hanke Aug. 20, 2021

Aug. 20, 2021

Arvig has been allocated an additional 100G port on the main switch: MICE MAIN :: Ethernet6/11/1 The existing port (MICE MAIN :: Ethernet3/8/1) will need to be LAGged with the new port. All IP information will remain the same. Welcome aboard (again)! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE Traffic
by Jay Hanke Aug. 18, 2021

Aug. 18, 2021

851 Gbps inbound last night.... not too shabby -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Re: [EXT]: [MICE-DISCUSS] Atomic Data New Equipment Deployment Maintenance
by Danny Meister Aug. 10, 2021

Aug. 10, 2021

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UG 38 Minutes
by Richard Laager Aug. 2, 2021

Aug. 2, 2021

The (draft) UG 38 minutes are posted: http://micemn.net/files/MICE%20UG%2038%20-%20Minutes.pdf as linked from the Resources page on the MICE website: http://micemn.net/resources.html -- Richard

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NANOG Socializing
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net July 29, 2021

July 29, 2021

Following up on our discussion of upper-midwest themed ideas for NANOG socializing, if curling doesn’t work out there are a number of places that do axe throwing now - not strictly Minnesotan but at least in the right direction for theming... as long as there is lots of buffalo plaid attire to set the right mood. Additionally on the stereotypically-midwestern food front I’ve found two places that serve tator-tot hotdish. https://www.crookedpint.com/downtown-minneapolis/ https://www.straydogmpls.com/ Cheers, anthony

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