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SFN Port Upgrade
by Jay Hanke 12 Nov '21

12 Nov '21

SFN has moved to Ethernet4/1 on the SFN 100G switch The new port is 40G and not in a LAG. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Please welcome The University of Minnesota to MICE!
by Jeremy Lumby 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Name: University of Minnesota Switch: MICE MAIN Port: Ethernet 6/14 ASN: 57 IP addresses remain the same, this is a port move. Peering Contact: farmer(a)umn.edu; murphy(a)umn.edu Route Servers- Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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IPv4 /24 expansion & renumbering
by Jonathan Stewart 05 Nov '21

05 Nov '21

Hello MICE fellows, I'm not sure how much of 206.108.255.0/24 is assigned, but my assumption is more than 50%. PeeringDB reports 120 peers with 136 "connections", so that sounds like more than 50% of the /24 is assigned. With recent growth in number of active routers at MICE, and the pain of renumbering, it seems prudent to think about expanding to a /23. I'm sure I'm not the first to think about this, but I haven't heard any of the discussion others have likely had. Unfortunately (predictably) it looks like 206.108.254.0/24 is in use, so we don't have that option to expand by adding a /24 to our existing /24 to make a /23. Have we taken steps, had thoughts, or requested additional space from ARIN as a micro-allocation? See: https://www.arin.net/reference/research/statistics/microallocations/ Cheers, Jonathan -- Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA

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FW: Duluth Extension down
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net 05 Nov '21

05 Nov '21

It looks like their link between 511 and Duluth went down at about 11am CDT. From: Ryan Nelson <ryan.nelson(a)integristech.onmicrosoft.com> Date: Friday, November 5, 2021 at 11:51 AM To: Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO>, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com>, "peering(a)micemn.net" <peering(a)micemn.net> Subject: Duluth Extension down Hi and sorry for spamming this out this way. New company email seems screwed up, so I can't send to discuss at the moment. Much appreciated if someone could spam the following out on my behalf. Compudyne/Integris is aware that the 10G wave that connects the Duluth extension to 511 is currently down and we're in the process of engaging the carrier. No ETA at the moment. Regards, Ryan Nelson Network Services Senior Architect 218-336-2220<tel:218-336-2220> ryan.nelson(a)integrisit.com<mailto:ryan.nelson@integrisit.com> Compudyne is now Integris. Read more<https://integrisit.com/compudyne/>.

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Record Traffic
by Jeremy Lumby 02 Nov '21

02 Nov '21

It looks like we are hitting a record high traffic level tonight, 1.35Tbps and climbing. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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Fwd: NANOG 83 PCF Table Details
by David Farmer 31 Oct '21

31 Oct '21

Do we have a current one pager of MICE for the Peering Forum table? We should probably say something about being above a Terabit of traffic. I had Jay added to the sign. Thanks ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Valerie Wittkop <vwittkop(a)nanog.org> Date: Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 10:53 Subject: NANOG 83 PCF Table Details To: Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> Hi David Farmer Thank you for completing the submission process to secure a table at the Peering Coordination Forum. I am writing today to confirm that we have you on the list, and you have been assigned to Table # 5. Please note, you are allowed up to 2 representatives at your table, who will be able to distribute business cards and provide a white paper or 1 sheet marketing page. If you no longer wish to participate in the PCF at NANOG 83, please let us know immediately. We will be holding the Peering Coordination Forum the afternoon of Monday, November 1, from 5:00pm - 6:30pm CDT, in Regency Room. Please arrive to the room at 4:45pm to meet the session moderators and set-up your table. Your table will have a personalized sign displaying the details provided via your submission. You will find your table sign in the attached PDF document. If you find you need to make any changes to the information listed, PLEASE let us know immediately. We are looking forward to seeing you! Valerie Wittkop Program Director vwittkop(a)nanog.org | +1 734-730-0225 (mobile) | www.nanog.org NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA <https://www.google.com/maps/search/305+E.+Eisenhower%C2%A0Pkwy,+Suite+100+%…> ASN 19230 [image: beacon] -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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NANOG Peering at MICE
by David Farmer 30 Oct '21

30 Oct '21

NANOG doesn't seem to be peering with the MICE Route Servers, I only see an announcement from USI. But I can ping the address listed on the MICE participants page. Will NANOG be peering with the Route Servers? Thanks -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

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Re: NANOG Peering at MICE
by Justin Krejci 29 Oct '21

29 Oct '21

Dave, I've forwarded your message to the appropriate tech contact. Assuming they intend to peer with the route servers, I expect it will get sorted soon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of David Farmer <0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 1:01 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] NANOG Peering at MICE FYI, Even though I typoed it the first time, there doesn't seem to be a peering(a)nanog.org<mailto:peering@nanog.org> mailbox. On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:57 PM David Farmer < farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>> wrote: NANOG doesn't seem to be peering with the MICE Route Servers, I only see an announcement from USI. But I can ping the address listed on the MICE participants page. Will NANOG be peering with the Route Servers? Thanks -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=163553…>

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Southern MN Fiber Damage
by Jay Hanke 27 Oct '21

27 Oct '21

There is a bunch of fiber damage outside Dodge Center, MN. It's affecting multiple long-hauls and also the Albert Lea remote is running on the backup circuit. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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bgp with google
by Jeff Wilde 25 Oct '21

25 Oct '21

Anyone elses session idle? 206.108.255.141 Description: --- Google --- Remote router ID 0.0.0.0 BGP state = Active NSR State: None [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298

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NANOG in MSP
by Jay Hanke 25 Oct '21

25 Oct '21

Looks to be up to 280 in person (429 total). If your company is struggling to get some of the bilaterals setup over MICE this would be a great time to track down your "peer" in person. The CDN folks appear to be decently represented. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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SFN Remote Switch Emergency Maintenance 2021-10-20
by Jay Hanke 19 Oct '21

19 Oct '21

Transport vendor is performing emergency equipment maintenance that will drop connectivity between the SFN MN-AlbertLea MICE remote and the MICE core between 12 AM and 4 AM tonight. Total outage expected to be less than 15 minutes. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Fwd: [Attendee] NANOG 83: Call For Volunteers
by Reid Fishler 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

MICE folks, feel free to help! Reid ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Nanog Support <nanog-support(a)nanog.org> Date: Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 7:40 PM Subject: [Attendee] NANOG 83: Call For Volunteers To: <attendee(a)nanog.org> Dear NANOG 83 Attendees, In three short weeks, (happening Nov. 1-3) our upcoming meeting, NANOG 83 will transpire in Minneapolis, MN! Through screen or in-person, we can’t wait to see your face at our first hybrid meeting. We are currently looking for several volunteers to join the NANOG staff for one to two hour shifts at NANOG 83. This is an incredible opportunity to engage with other members of the NANOG community, learn what we do behind the scenes, and of course receive a complimentary ticket to the event. We could use your assistance with: - Meeting Registration/T-shirts Desk - Sunday, October 31, 2021: 4:00pm-6:00pm - Tuesday, November 2, 2021: 4:30pm-6:30pm - Wednesday, November 3, 2021: 1:00pm-4:00pm - NANOG Hackathon Registration Desk - Sunday, October 31, 2021: 8:00am-12:00pm - NANOG Social Event Door Monitor - Monday, November 1, 2021: 6:45pm-7:30pm - Women In Tech Luncheon Mentor - Tuesday, November 2, 2021: 12:00pm-1:00pm If you are interested in serving in one of these capacities, please contact us at NANOG-Support(a)nanog.org Thank you for your continued support of NANOG and the community. NANOG Support _______________________________________________ Attendee mailing list Attendee(a)nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/attendee -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178

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Global Net (AS395466) - Upcoming Maintenance 10/11/2021
by Global Net NOC 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

MICEMN Members - We have a maintenance window scheduled for Monday, October 11th. BGP sessions will go down during the window. Start: 10/11/21 0601 GMT (00:01 MDT) End: 10/11/21 1200 GMT (06:00 MDT) GLOBAL NET AS 395466 IPV4 206.108.255.97 IPV6 2001:504:27:0:6:8ca:0:1 Thanks, Global Net NOC noc(a)theglobal.net Global Net Peering peering

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BGP session bounce early am
by Frank Bulk 05 Oct '21

05 Oct '21

Anyone else see their BGP sessions to Google and Yahoo over IPv4 & IPv6 go down today (10/5/2021) between 1:45:07 and 1:45:32 am? Frank

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Facebook DNS issues
by Jay Hanke 05 Oct '21

05 Oct '21

Looks like Facebook is having large scale DNS issues. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Details for this weeks Meeting
by Travis Fincham 01 Oct '21

01 Oct '21

Are there any details for this week’s meeting? Thanks Travis Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ NOTICE: This message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2510-2521, is CONFIDENTIAL, and is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the named addressee or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the named addressee, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, retention, dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you received this message in error and then delete it.

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Microsoft peering at 511 - packet loss
by Fridlington, Anthony 30 Sep '21

30 Sep '21

We seem to be having issues with both of our Microsoft peers at 511, but no others. Is anybody experiencing similar issues? 206.108.255.156 and 206.108.255.157. Thank you, Anthony Fridlington Network Manager Essentia Health Information Services | P240 532 E 1st St, Duluth, MN 55805 218-786-5360 | Anthony.Fridlington(a)EssentiaHealth.org

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Midco Upgrade 1x1x100G
by Jay Hanke 28 Sep '21

28 Sep '21

Please allocate the following port to Midco. MICE MAIN :: Ethernet3/25/1 Port should be provisioned as a single member LAG group. This port was previously allocated to Midco and then converted to a 10G port. IP info will remain the same. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MICE UG39 Election Results
by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net 23 Sep '21

23 Sep '21

Congratulations to Reid Fishler, who was re-elected to the MICE Board of Directors yesterday for another 3 year term - we thank him for his ongoing service to the community. Since most members were joining remotely we did the election as a voice vote but I continued the tradition of recording everyone’s votes with tokens none-the-less. [A picture containing indoor, stuffed Description automatically generated] Cheers, anthony [signature_2070010193]

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Re: Quorum
by Kittel, Brady 21 Sep '21

21 Sep '21

We (HCMC/HHS) support this as well with one suggestion/comment: Can we maintain a higher quorum requirement for specific actions that pertain to changing the makeup of the actual board or how it votes outside of an election if that isn't already in place? I'd hate to see the low member quorum be used against the MICE by a handful of orgs for the purposes of changing the nature of MICE. I don't have any concerns about that right now, but I've seen it happen in other non-profit orgs where a handful of members essentially took over the non-profit for their own commercial/personal benefit. ---- Brady Kittel Systems Architect - Server Team Hennepin County Medical Center 612-873-2150 Brady.Kittel(a)hcmed.org On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:00 AM Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: I support as well, for all the reasons others have mentioned. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Quorum I support this proposal as well. If we get to the point where we are in another lockdown, or where people don't want to travel, we will need this in force as well. All meetings will continue to be announced, but the board should not have to try to call people as the meeting starts to try to make sure the meeting will count (this has happened before). Reid On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:48 AM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net<mailto:jonathan@les.net>> wrote: On Mon., 2021-09-20 12:13 a.m., Richard Laager wrote: I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less, are a quorum for the transaction of business. I support Richard's proposal. Not having quorum is a real governance problem, and if faced, it's a problem that the board and assembled members at the AGM would not be able to resolve. The only option would be to call a new meeting and hope for more attendees. 10 members seems sufficient to ensure there's reasonable oversight of business. And as Dean Bahls pointed out, nothing about this change would limit the ability of any member to participate. Thanks to Richard for the proposal. Jonathan Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET<http://les.net/> - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Quorum
by Richard Laager 21 Sep '21

21 Sep '21

We've had the topic of quorum on the agenda a few times. At the last meeting, I said I thought our annual meeting would be a good time to take that up officially. I said I'd send a proposal to the list. To recap the concern: Our bylaws currently set the quorum at 10%. As we add members (which is great!), the required quorum increases proportionally. However, it seems we have approximately the same core group interested in governance. If we grow much more, we may be unable to meet the quorum requirement. We have already had a couple meetings where we had to wait for people to show up, or contact people to encourage them to join the call. The attendance numbers going back to the end of 2017 are: 11, 11, 10, 9*, 12, 12, 11, 16*, 11, 16, 15*, 15, 15 * Regular annual meeting with election. The current Bylaws and the Attendance information can be found at: http://micemn.net/resources.html <http://micemn.net/resources.html> As of the last meeting, our voting membership was 118, which puts quorum at 12 members. (Also, I understand that a merger has happened which would reduce most, if not all, of the previous attendance numbers by 1.) Counterargument: We haven't actually completely failed quorum yet. Counter-counter-argument: It's been close, and if it happens, then without a quorum, we can't fix the issue. We previously discussed the idea of setting a cap on the quorum. That is, it would be 10% or X, whichever is lower. This is consistent with other provisions in the bylaws (e.g. 3% or 50 members, whichever is less, can call a meeting if no meeting has occurred in 15 months). This seems like a great solution to me. I think 10 would be a good number. I propose that section 1.11 of the bylaws be amended to read as follows: Members representing ten percent (10%) of the voting power of the membership interests entitled to vote at a meeting of the members_, or at least ten (10) members, whichever is less,_ are a quorum for the transaction of business. Thoughts? -- Richard

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Corrected GPC Port Assignments
by Jay Hanke 21 Sep '21

21 Sep '21

Great Plains is moving off the MAIN MICE switch and onto the MN VoIP 10G switch. The new ports will be: MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet31 MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet32 MN VoIP 10g :: Ethernet33 -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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Great Plains Additional Port
by Jay Hanke 21 Sep '21

21 Sep '21

Please add port: MICE MAIN :: Ethernet4/23 To the existing Great Plains LAG group (Port Channel 13) -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

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MN VoIP extension switch uplink upgrade
by Jeremy Lumby 18 Sep '21

18 Sep '21

Minnesota VoIP has completed upgrading the link between their extension switches and the MICE core to 3x100G. The new link runs from 6/13/1 on the main switch to 27/1 on the MN VoIP extension. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

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