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Re: Remote MICE members?
by Anthony Anderberg 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

> Frankly, I'm surprised at the outpouring of love for spanning-tree I don't know anyone that loves spanning-tree, most people have more of an abusive older-brother sort of relationship. I'd lean toward STP being a necessary evil in a L2 environment where physical control isn't absolute for all the reasons David mentioned. I also like a bunch of the things Andrew brought up, but don't have a good feel for what the administration would feel like. It seems like I've spent the last 20 years either being disappointed in the performance of simple designs or being disappointed by the unpredictability of complicated designs... Anyway, this morning I've changed the main Juniper switch bridge priority and it appears to have asserted itself as the root. Steve/Jay/Doug - can you guys confirm that things look correct on your switches, I'll send you the Juniper's current settings off-list. Beyond that we can evolve in the direction the group thinks is best. Cheers, Anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Remote MICE members?
by Steve Howard 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Hello, CNS has received a request from one of its customers for a direct connection to MICE. If the consensus is to move forward, we could haul the MICE VLAN to that customer (and presumably to any other CNS member or customer who wants a direct MICE connection). This could result in the MICE VLAN appearing at various places throughout the region. I think that this could be a good thing for MICE, but if not managed correctly, it has the potential to be troublesome for problem isolation. MICE already has remote switches at 511. Other exchanges often have switches connected throughout their city. In this case, it is a little of both – except that the individual remote connections could be farther away in different directions. Does that matter? Whether we add remote connections or not, I'd like to see us come up with a plan for spanning tree. It probably would be best to make sure that our spanning tree root is one of the MICE 10Gig switches (probably the main one?). Or, alternatively, we could disable/filter spanning tree altogether and do MAC filtering for loop prevention. I think that spanning tree has its limitations, but it is much easier to maintain then MAC filtering. It looks like the current spanning tree root is 00:0c:db:fe:af:00 which looks like a Brocade device. Hmmm... We might want to change that... What does everybody think? Are there better ways to do this? Thanks, Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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SDN 10G Mice Upgrade
by Jay Hanke 09 Sep '11

09 Sep '11

Mitch, We're starting to run low on 10 G ports on the main stack. Is SDN still planning to upgrade? Also note, you're likely going to see a large spike in traffic when Akamai goes live on the exchange. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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route server admin
by Jay Hanke 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

Is there someone with route server admin rights that could add a peer online? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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MICE Meeting Dates
by Jay Hanke 06 Sep '11

06 Sep '11

The next MICE meeting dates will be: November 9th, 2011 May 9th, 2012 November 14th, 2012 Thanks, -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP
by Jeremy Lumby 06 Sep '11

06 Sep '11

I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or two deeper. Thanks, Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Bird Help
by Jay Hanke 03 Sep '11

03 Sep '11

Is someone around build a couple of new bgp sessions for a new carrier on the route servers? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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IPv6 Route Server Check-in
by Matthew Beckwell 30 Aug '11

30 Aug '11

I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... ~Matthew -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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"carrier choice" verbiage
by Ryan Goldberg 25 Aug '11

25 Aug '11

I've got a customer moving into a building where the building owners/management is attempting to enforce carrier exclusivity; they are in bed with another carrier. I already have the customer's other two sites on-net. This would be a third, new site. My fiber is just outside of the building, and I want to be in it. The owners of the company (my customer) have a pretty strong hand, and are looking for verbiage to add to the lease basically stating they can use whatever carrier they want. Does anyone have something like this handy? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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cogent
by Ryan Goldberg 24 Aug '11

24 Aug '11

I'm guessing someone else here is using Cogent - from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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