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Re: Mice Issues
by Jeremy Lumby Feb. 20, 2014

Feb. 20, 2014

Charter Update: I am providing this update to let others know what I went through after the outage to get re-connected to Charter in the event that others are seeing similar issues, hopefully it can cut a lot of troubleshooting time. -When the outage happened yesterday I shut down my MICE port. -All traffic shifted to my other upstreams as expected, other than Charter -I could not pass 2 way traffic with anyone on Charter's network. -Some traceroutes from Charter's side showed that traffic heading to me was hitting their peering router that was connected to MICE, even though my BGP session with them had been down for hours -Charter's peering router showed that my BGP session was still established through MICE from prior to the outage starting. -Charter attempted to clear the BGP connection to me as well as do a shutdown on my neighbor statement, however whenever they looked at it, it still showed established with the timer reflecting it being up prior to the MICE outage. -I turned my MICE port back up, and return traffic from Charter started making it to me, despite BGP being down from my point of view. -It took Charter removing all of their neighbor statements to me, and re-entering them before BGP properly re-established in both directions. -The entire time our IPv6 session worked as expected -We are both running Cisco hardware, I believe they have a 9K and I have a 7206VXR-G2 I hope this helps others out with troubleshooting in the future Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:58 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Mice Issues On 2/19/14, 17:45 , Jeremy Lumby wrote: > Is anyone else having issues with connectivity to Charter? I have > re-established connectivity to every one else through my other > upstreams, other than Charter. I am keeping my MICE port down > overnight for good measure. Our peering with Charter has reestablished via MICE, everything looks good here. -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Re: Mice Issues
by Jeremy Lumby Feb. 19, 2014

Feb. 19, 2014

Is anyone else having issues with connectivity to Charter? I have re-established connectivity to every one else through my other upstreams, other than Charter. I am keeping my MICE port down overnight for good measure. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Dan Boehlke Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:41 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Mice Issues The Vaultas switch has been configured to participate in spanning-tree, so it won't blindly go along with loops any more. Sorry. The Vaultas switch didn't make the loop, it just made it worse. Any word on the origination of the loop? -- Dan Boehlke dboehlke(a)mac.com On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: Got ssh, that mac doug sent out belongs to Vaultas. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: There are two Extreme networks on the Mankato Remote switch, Vaultas and Revnet. I don't have ssh right now, can someone check? On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 04:03:15PM -0600, Richard Laager wrote: Can someone look at the route server logs and see who the new IPv4 peer was that showed up just before this problem started? Nobody turned up recently. A better measure is who turned up on the switch rather than the route-server. This was a l2 flood, not anything in routing. No ports were up/down on the switch until the flood triggered my port and Implex's port offline (probably the same class of cisco switch protecting themselves from the l2 flood). Feb 19 15:11:45 MICE-SW1 mib2d[1107]: SNMP_TRAP_LINK_DOWN: ifIndex 604, ifAdminStatus up(1), ifOperStatus down(2), ifName ge-1/0/3 Feb 19 15:11:48 MICE-SW1 mib2d[1107]: SNMP_TRAP_LINK_DOWN: ifIndex 606, ifAdminStatus up(1), ifOperStatus down(2), ifName ge-1/0/5 So, it probably was from one of the existing remote switches. The MAC address I posted about before is an Extreme? switch. Also, the l2 flood seems abated. I've been pinging clear to the route servers for 5 minutes now. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Mice Issues
by Jeremy Lumby Feb. 19, 2014

Feb. 19, 2014

I have been experiencing packet loss, as well as seen many of my BGP sessions go down across MICE. Has anyone else seen issues? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Please welcome Emergent Networks to MICE!
by Jay Hanke Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

Port: xe-0/0/35 Emergent Networks ASN: 29762 IPv4: 206.108.255.30/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:7442::1/64 peering(a)emergentnetworks.com Prefix Limit: 15 Please update route servers and website! Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Traffic Drop
by Dean Bahls Feb. 4, 2014

Feb. 4, 2014

Wondering if anyone knows the specifics behind the dramatic drop in MICE traffic that started about a week ago. Thanks! Dean Dean Bahls Network Services Manager Cooperative Network Services, LLC (218) 346-3635 (office) dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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Mice Meeting Tomorrow @ 4 pm
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 31, 2014

Jan. 31, 2014

Good morning all! Just a friendly reminder of our 4 pm meeting tomorrow at the 511 building. I'm assembling the agenda now, if you have anything to include for discussion, please send it my way! s *Shaun Carlson*Network Engineering Manager | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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UG 11 Minutes
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 30, 2014

Jan. 30, 2014

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UG 11 Agenda
by Shaun Carlson Jan. 30, 2014

Jan. 30, 2014

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Re: Mice Meeting Tomorrow @ 4 pm
by Mike Johnston Jan. 30, 2014

Jan. 30, 2014

What is this weather you speak of? We are to St. Cloud already and the weather is wonderful. Mike Johnston Wikstrom Telephone Company Eric Crist <ecrist(a)CLAIMLYNX.COM> wrote: >I'd be interested in a WebEx session for tonight's meeting. > >--- >Eric F Crist >System Administrator >ClaimLynx, Inc >(952) 593-5969 x2301 > > > >On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:59:16, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > >> Yes, we're still planning to have the meeting. >> >> I was thinking about offering a webex for those that can't travel to the cities. If you're interested in that option, please let me know. >> >> s >> >> On Thursday, January 30, 2014, Eric Crist <ecrist(a)claimlynx.com> wrote: >> With the weather being what it is, is the plan to still hold the meeting? >> >> --- >> Eric F Crist >> System Administrator >> ClaimLynx, Inc >> (952) 593-5969 x2301 >> >> >> >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:10:17, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: >> >> > Good morning all! >> > >> > Just a friendly reminder of our 4 pm meeting tomorrow at the 511 building. >> > >> > I'm assembling the agenda now, if you have anything to include for discussion, please send it my way! >> > >> > s >> > >> > Shaun Carlson >> > Network Engineering Manager | Arvig >> > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > >> >> >> -- >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual >> responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, please be >> advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, >> dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly >> prohibited. >> >> If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the >> sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from >> your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, >> please contact the sender or call ClaimLynx at (952) 593-5969. >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> -- >> >> Shaun Carlson >> Network Engineering Manager | Arvig >> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > >-- >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual >responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, please be >advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, >dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly >prohibited. > >If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the >sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from >your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, >please contact the sender or call ClaimLynx at (952) 593-5969. > >######################################################################## > >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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"Toward Efficiencies in Canadian Internet Traffic Exchange" - a good read for us too, i think
by Mike O'Connor Jan. 29, 2014

Jan. 29, 2014

hi all, i was thinking this might be interesting for y’all, even though it’s got a Canadian slant. lots of their arguments apply to us as well, no? i’m reluctant to hit this list with a 2.5 mB attachment, so here’s a link http://www.cira.ca/assets/Uploads/Toward-Efficiencies-in-Canadian-Internet-… here are a few teaser bullet points from the first page Key benefits: By reducing reliance on costly international data transit, additional ISPs will reduce networks’ ongoing operational costs. These cost savings will flow to Canadian Internet users, and unnecessary export of capital will be reduced. By providing high-speed domestic links, additional ISPs will increase the amount of bandwidth available to Canadian users, mitigating networks’ bandwidth shortages and removing networks’ incentives to impose bandwidth throttling and usage caps. By favoring shorter and more direct routes, additional ISPs will reduce network latency, improving the performance of new services like video and could-based applications. By allowing Canadian data to remain in Canada as much as possible and as often as possible, additional ISPs will reduce the risk of Canadian data becoming subject to foreign laws and practices. By increasing the richness and density of connections between Canadian networks, additional ISPs will increase the reliability of internet access in Canada and its resilience to disaster and attack. among other things, there’s an interesting discussion of Governance Structures about midway through this piece. there’s a Challenges and Responses section right after that. as a retired “suit,” i found it a good read. ;-) mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

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