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VM donation- change control/graph data backup
by Andrew Hoyos Nov. 25, 2015

Nov. 25, 2015

Hi folks, One of the things that was discussed in the meeting yesterday as change control and config backups. Perhaps along those same lines, we should think about also backing up the graph data somewhere. I’m not sure where any of this data physically lives right now, but perhaps it would make sense to put somewhere *other* than the 511 bldg. I’d like to offer up a VM donation located in Madison, WI to at least run RANCID to grab config backups of the IX switches, as well as a backup target for any data (graphs, route-server config, etc). Effort involved should be minimal, but we’d happily take point on getting RANCID set up and configured as well, and sending diffs to the technical committee, as well as whomever else might see value in seeing config changes happen (perhaps a list?) Let me know, and we’ll make it happen. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

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NorthernLights GigaPoP maintenance 11/22 8 am
by Colin Murphy Nov. 20, 2015

Nov. 20, 2015

Hello, Sending out a heads up that the NorthernLights GigaPoP/University of Minnesota connection to MICE will be down for maintenance this Sunday from 8 am to 9 am. I will be relocating our two 10 gig links to MICE to a new router. If there are any questions or issues please let me know. Thanks, Colin Murphy Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota NorthernLights GigaPoP Desk: 612-626-0870

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Website Version Control
by Richard Laager Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

I've put the website code here for now: https://github.com/rlaager/mice-website Once we get non-profit status, I should be able to get a free github "organization" account for MICE. That would be more correct. -- Richard

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Member SLA's
by Jamison Masters Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

A discussion during the meeting today surrounded a third party maintenance organization, "the SLA vendor," that would accept payment from "Behemoth, Inc." to fulfill Behemoth's SLA (24x7 support, MTTR, etc...). It is established, and I agree that the SLA relationship occurs exclusively between Behemoth and the SLA vendor, and that Behemoth has no higher precedence on the exchange than anyone else. Behemoth is just another port on the switch. However, the SLA vendor would require management access to the IXP equipment to support its SLA, and that is where my concern is. If the SLA vendor is under contract to make Behemoth happy, they may choose to make configuration changes that prioritize their SLA agreement without consideration for the other members in the exchange. e.g., "What if I shut these other ports down to see if it fixes Behemoth's problem?" or, "We just brought on a new MICE member today. Maybe they screwed something up. I'll shut their session down just to see if it affected Behemoth..." We need to thoroughly trust the SLA vendor. What about rights and responsibilities? What penalties will the SLA vendor face if they mangle something for the sake of their contract with Behemoth, Inc., regardless if it nefarious or not? The meeting moved on to change management, an appropriate segue. Jamison Masters Partner / CIO VERUS Corporation 763-354-2204 jamison(a)veruscorp.com

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MICE Fees Nay Fundraising
by Justin Krejci Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

In an effort to not extend the UG discussion further on the "how to get MICE some money" topic today, and as specifically directed by the board, I am posting this idea to the mail list. Given the suggestion of caution that MICE should use when discussing the process of raising funds, I propose the traditional method various associations use of voluntary/charitable donations. The "how much do you feel you and the community benefits from the existence and success of MICE?" approach. Then the little flyer cards with the check boxes next to various suggested dollar amounts is what comes to mind. (hypothetical example) [ ] - $100 / month [ ] - $250 / month [ ] - $500 / month [ ] - $1000 / month [ ] - $_____ / month [ ] - $_____ / one-time MICE could even make note of donor levels if we wanted to get fancy like at all the trade shows: platinum sponsors, gold, silver, tin, plastic, etc. This could be an opt-in choice for donating members if they want to get a little sponsor reference to their website a la CentOS mirros (https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/) Yes, there are logistical issues that would need to be worked out: someone or something to generate payable invoices, the completion of MICE's non-profit status, someone to receive/process payments to MICE, etc. Given the collective knowledge and capabilities of all of the members involved, I don't think any such hurdles are insurmountable. I believe some/many organizations would be willing to make or keep on making financial contributions, I know US Internet fits this category. I wonder how comfortable organizations that are against forced payment for MICE membership would be to contribute voluntarily to MICE in such a fashion. This would at least provide a way to start building some reliable capital vs the ad hoc method of "hey we need to pay the lawyer, can everyone pitch in?" method. I think it would be better to have the funds when needed than to ask for the funds when needed. In any case, I hope to least get the ball rolling on the general topic of funding MICE. Thoughts? Comments? Feedback?

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Posting MICE Meeting Materials
by Justin Krejci Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

I have observed other organizations successfully utilize their website for tracking and posting meeting agendas and meeting meetings. A full blown CMS with revisions/history or a simple flat list or table of URLs can work very well. I suggest something similar be considered for MICE either as a replacement of email or as complement to email. Having a central location makes it consistent and straight forward to retrieve any desired document, current or past. This becomes even more relevant to those that are more recently joining MICE who did not receive the previous emails and so have to dig scrape through mailing list archives if they wish to review and understand the history of MICE. I personally also like that it provides a subtle jab against SMTP from subjugating all of our file transfer methods.

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Webex Online
by Shaun Carlson Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

All, The Webex is online with the following info: *Where*: 511 Cafeteria, WebEx Online *Meeting number*: 195 549 476 *Password*: This meeting does not require a password. Alternate Audio Connection: 1-415-655-0001 *Access code*: 195 549 476 See you there! Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 17 Minutes - FOR REVIEW
by Shaun Carlson Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

Please let me know if there are any corrections that need to be noted for the approval of the minutes. Thanks! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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MICE UG 18 Agenda and Webex Information
by Shaun Carlson Nov. 16, 2015

Nov. 16, 2015

All, My apologies as I'm sending this again. It appears this didn't go out last week as I had thought. Please let me know if there are any agenda additions and I'll make the change prior to the meeting. Webex info is as follows: *Where*: 511 Cafeteria, WebEx Online *Meeting number*: 195 549 476 *Password*: This meeting does not require a password. Alternate Audio Connection: 1-415-655-0001 *Access code*: 195 549 476 Thanks and see you all at 1 pm today! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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Agenda Request for Monday's meeting
by Shaun Carlson Nov. 10, 2015

Nov. 10, 2015

All, Just a quick request for any agenda items for Monday. I plan to send out the "final" agenda on Thursday. In addition, are there any requests for remote attendance? If so, I'll set the Webex up again. Thanks! s Shaun Carlson Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346.8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

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